Hungary's Viktor Orbán secures another term with resounding win, 2/3 majority - Polidicks

Guardian Hungary’s anti-migration prime minister, Viktor Orbán, has secured a third consecutive term in office after his Fidesz party won a resounding victory in parliamentary elections on Sunday. After running a campaign almost exclusively focused on the apparent threat posed by migration, Orbán’s Fidesz will have a majority in parliament and may even regain a two-thirds “supermajority” which allows constitutional changes. With around 93% of votes counted, Fidesz was projected to take 133 of the parliament’s 199 seats, the minimum required for the supermajority. Orbán appeared shortly before midnight to claim victory in front of a cheering crowd outside the Fidesz election headquarters on the Danube in Budapest. “We won,” Orbán said. “We gave ourselves a chance to protect Hungary.” Second place in the vote went to Jobbik, the far-right party that has attempted to rebrand itself as an anti-corruption centrist force. The party is set to win just 26 seats, and its leader, Gábor Vona, said he would resign. The result is a crushing defeat for the liberal opposition, who had been cautiously optimistic about dealing a blow to Fidesz. Surveys showed that more Hungarians wanted a change of government than another Orbán term, but the divided opposition meant Fidesz was able to win big. The Hungarian electoral system allows for a party to win a large majority of seats without winning a majority of the vote. Changes made by Orbán’s government over recent years have cemented that advantage https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1195/e9580cbc-85ac-4372-8683-f13193fa447a/el.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1195/f88e2fc6-dbfc-47a7-8033-75833497f75c/8.png

Can someone help me move some stuff?

"The Hungarian electoral system allows for a party to win a large majority of seats without winning a majority of the vote. " - Where have I heard that before? Also, does anybody think it's a little suspicious that he got the exact minimum number of seats to create constitutional change? I am probably just being paranoid, but it's still, at the very least, an unlikely coincidence. PS: lol at the fact his name can be pronounced 'Victor'

Well its mostly just symbolic at this point (they had this power between 2010 and 2015 then they lost one seat at an interim election, what they wanted with it has already been done). Also technically they have one more seats because the MNOÖ member (German minority representative party) is also a Fidesz sympathizer.

Ah, I see. Still though, couldn't the ability to enact constitutional change allow the disbandment of democracy altogether? I assume there's scope for that?

Yeah, that's the plan. It's been an on-going effort.

Oh no no, that would be in no ones interest: sanctions from the EU, probable disbarment, massive domestic revolts (see: 2006 protests with the previous govt) etc. It takes some ingenuity, but you can still just as easily stack the cards in your favor, while retaining freedom of the press, free elections, and all that Take one example, the system of National Consultation (honestly its a pretty brilliant idea): You send a questionnaire to every person on the country about current affairs, then process the results and make policy changes accordingly, on paper at least. That sounds pretty damn democratic innit? In reality the questions are heavily loaded (eg. "One of the aims of Soros-plan is that the culture and language needs to fade in the background in order to integrate illegal immigrants faster. [citation here] Do you support this?"), which makes it a campaigning tool that can be used even between elections. Oh and best of all, for this government funds can be used, no need to touch the party campaign budget. But I could talk about stuff like this all day long.

I can't help you, and I'm sorry this is happening to your country, but here's a diamond to make you feel a bit better.

Hey thanks, that did make my morning better :) Well, at least its a nice sunny day today

Yeah, my girlfriend is Hungarian (lives in the UK, and no intention to go back except to visit family) and her facebook feed was filled with Hungarians stating their intention to remain abroad for another 4 years or to migrate away now.

Concerning, but nevertheless expected.

Hungary is /pol/ irl

A few hours ago I've ran into this tweet, though it seems nothing came out of it. Which is kinda weird. https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/983275441934012416

The National Election Office responded that this is a thing that happens regularly because of the way votes are counted. Turnout during the day (eg at 18:30) is based on committees at polling places crossing people who voted off a list. Turnout at 19:00 when the polls close (in theory, people standing in line are still allowed to vote) is based on the reports that are handed in by the committees. But there were a lot of people who requested to vote at a different place than their designated one, these people were grouped at special polling places, every town had one or more of these. And from these places reports don't come in at 19:00, thats why there there was a negative difference, which will most likely disappear when all the votes will be counted later this week. OSCE also released a preliminary report which greatly slammed the campaigning process, but the voting process itself was "professional and transparent".

The only good thing that came out of this is /r/hungary being flooded with memes and more visits. It's sad and I don't know what to think of it as it was somewhat predictable. On one hand, we need to change FIDESZ. On the other hand, opposition is kinda shit.

right down to the "I'm a classical liberal, lol jk brown people get out"

And "the evil Jew globalist elite leftist (((Soros)) controls everything."