Actually, speculation seems to be this was France or Israel, given the denials by the Pentagon.
i mean we deny a lot of things, like that bush did 9/11 and that communism is the one true economic system
Reports are coming forward that their is heavy activity of the Russian and Syrian Air Forces.
It's going back and forth on whether or not it's the Israelis or Coalition forces doing the attacks. Some people in Lebanon are reporting seeing aircraft moving in from different directions, and explosions overhead, possibly dogfights.
Bar your shitposting, the US tends not deny things like airstrikes, and Syrian airfields have been attacked directly under the trump admin.
As was stated earlier, this was probably France or Israel.
Iranian soldiers at the T4 base?
Well shit.
I'm seeing speculation online that this attack, presumably by Israel, is to weaken Syria ahead of a further, larger joint-attack by US and France.
I honestly doubt that. Syrian forces as a whole have been off limits since the civil war began, and NATO isnt going to circumvent the UNSC.
You dont start a blitz off by attacking an airfield then waiting hours before the main attack starts. You do that shit immediately afterwards so's to not give the enemy time to recover. This one airstrike isnt the start of a joint offensive. There would be a lot more strikes, and a lot more dead Syrians.
Well this is going to make for some theorists to come out.
People aren't even really over the chemical attack still in some cases if Assad did it.
For a moment i lived in a mindset where syria wasn't a giant war-clusterfuck, because i took in the title as if the syrian air-field workers were on strike.'
More than likely it was a bloody nose attack, something to take them off guard and gauge their response. If i had to guess I'd say it was either the US or Israel, though the US is usually pretty up front about its strikes so far in the Syrian conflict. Considering that Israel has a bit more of a history of doing strikes like that (see operation opera) my bet would be on them.
Oh ffs here we go again. The White Helmets are known to be anti-government, and independent health organisations like the Red Cross or Red Crescent haven been let into the areas of supposed chemical attacks. The government is winning, the rebels losing, why would they use gas now?
The article in the OP has been updated. Syria and Russia are saying it was Israel.
The Syrian government and its ally Russia have blamed Israel for a deadly attack on a Syrian military airport.
Monday's attack hit the Tiyas airbase, known as T4, near the city of Homs. Observers say 14 people were killed.
Israel, which has previously hit Syrian targets, has not commented. Syria initially blamed the US for the strike.
Because they got away with it before and it's a weapon in their arsenal?
You don't quit using certain weapons because you're winning, especially if using them got you to that winning spot.
Are you implying that using chemical weapons is what's making them "win"?
I am not saying it's winning them the whole war. But I've yet to see any report saying it was completely useless on their attacks.
The last time a chemical agent was used in the Syria trump dropped some firepower on some 20 of their fighter aircraft and costed them untold amounts of money.
But yeah I'm sure they thought it would be totally worth round 2.
Iran and Russia have their backs now, while Trump is reportedly just about to pull out of Syria altogether. They may have gotten overconfident.
Yea not really. The damage from Trumps strike was pretty minimal and the airfield was operating again after a few hours. The Syrian regime is being propped up by Russia so financial damage and military equipment being damaged isnt a big hit for them.
I think it would be more likely that the rebels are using agents and pausing for time and or retaliation while they are under siege rather than Assad & Putin having a mental lapse in international law.
This is far more likely the issue at hand. The rebels are keeping a small stock of CWs and using them during opportune times. I mean, dictators are horrible people. But why would they drop CW's on a city that they have completely encircled and are on the verge of taking it over? They already retook 90% of East Ghouta without CW use.
https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/status/983451027386044419
So... Who else on Facepunch is probably going to dodge the draft?
Hmmm, who could be using chemical weapons? The dictatorship that started a civil war by mass murdering their citizenship, or could it be poorly armed rebels using the weapons on themselves. HMMMMMMMM
You know what can easily break a seige and save the lives of your own infantry, rather than them dying in house-to-house combat? By breaking the enemy's will with the use of unavoidable deadly weaponry, like chemical weapons.
I've got to agree with Cyke Lon Bee here - Occam's Razor applies, and it is a far more parsimonious explanation that the dictatorship with a history of mass murder (Remember how this all started? Before the FSA was even a thing? Barrel bombs and snipers deployed against protesters?) and access to chemical weapons is, you know, using them to soften up what is still going to be a hard target (Urban fighting is awful, especially against entrenched enemies) than the bizarre idea that the Rebels were using the chemical weapons on their own position because... reasons? "Lol, lets just throw around chemical weapons at ourselves guys, we're going to lose anyway!"
You'd be surprised with how loved Assad is in his country, it's not one of those NK kind of deals either, their media is fairly open.
Not excusing his actions, he's a cunt, but not stupid. He knows he needs to be on good behavior for his troops to remain armed in fighting off the remaining Islamists that unless you haven't been paying attention have wreaked havoc not among only Syria but many of the neighboring countries since the 2nd gulf war (and long before.)
But I'm sure you'd rather trust the militants that are using human shields to eventually fulfill their deathwish.
My sympathies are with the freedom fighters for Syria, unfortunately there just aren't many left, most fighters are foreign.
Except that it hasn't triggered a world war any other time Syria has used it, and the OPCW-UN investigation found many instances in which the Syrians had used them. Right before Russia vetoed any extension of their mandate to investigate further incidents when it came up for renewal.
Many?
I'll do some reading on to the others, I wasn't aware there were many that were investigated by the OPCW, that said it wasn't forensically proven who the weapons were deployed by, and this is very important to a murder case never mind something like this, we can't leave it down to speculation or even motive/means, you'll just end up getting played somewhere down the line.
I was also referring to the international powers conflict of interest and current escalation that is going on, not the weapons themselves.
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