Stoneman Douglas Teacher Arrested After Forgetting Gun in Public Bathroom - Sensationalist Headlines

Sean Simpson, a teacher at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, has spoken in favor of gun control efforts and said he might be open to the idea of carrying a gun in class. Now, he has been arrested after leaving his Glock 9 mm pistol in a bathroom over the weekend. Simpson told the authorities that he had forgotten the loaded weapon in a stall in the bathroom at the Deerfield Beach pier. But before he could retrieve the pistol, the Sun-Sentinel reports, "a drunk homeless man found it and fired it, according to an arrest report from the Broward Sheriff's Office." No one was injured in the incident, but Simpson, 43, was arrested and charged with failing to safely store the weapon. He posted $250 bond, according to local media. Joseph Spataro, the man who picked up the gun, told police that he pulled the trigger to find out whether the weapon was loaded. He has been charged with firing a weapon while intoxicated and trespassing, Local 10 TV news reports. While Simpson has said he was open to the idea of getting training to carry a gun inside school, he has also spoken out to praise and support the Parkland, Fla., students who have called for improved gun control, particularly on high-powered, rapid-firing weapons. "These students are going to stand up, they're going to speak from their hearts, and they're not going to be silenced," Simpson told NBC in an interview during a student march days after the attack. Simpson called the idea of arming teachers to protect against school shootings "a tough question." "I know there are some of us that are willing to take the training if it was offered and probably be another line of defense," Simpson told NBC. "But again, that is a complicated subject and I'm not sure if it's the answer. I think it's easier to get these types of weapons out of the hands of people that aren't meant to do anything but kill. They're not meant for hunting." When Local 10 reached Simpson by phone to ask about his arrest, he didn't offer any comment other than to say he doesn't think he broke any school rules. The station reports, "He continues to teach at Stoneman Douglas, and a Broward County School Board spokeswoman said the district is not expected to take any professional action against him in the case." Stoneman Douglas Teacher Is Arrested After Leaving Gun In Bathro.. _____________________________________ How do you just forget a gun in public

its like the area is cursed with floridaman syndrome. who picks up a gun and thinks "gee i'll just pull the trigger to see if its loaded!"

I'm betting it wasn't properly holstered somehow, and fell to the floor when he lowered his pants to use the toilet.

how would he not notice, a gun hitting a floor would make some substantial noise

Or he took his holster off to use the toilet. If you've ever tried to take a shit with a gun on you'd know they have a tendency to plop over and point at you if you leave them on your belt.

I've always had a conundrum with CCing and needing to shit in a public restroom. I still havent figured out the best method but setting it on the ground never crossed my mind. What a fuckin retard.

If mine gets rowdy I move it to sit between my feet so I can't forget it.

Simple solution: Don't shit in public restrooms.

i specifically added "public" to the title because the original title made it sound like it happened at the high school

If duty calls man I gotta answer it. Im not always within 15 minutes of my place and its not like I can avoid shitting for 12 hours. Ive probably taken a hundred shits in public while CCing and never lost my gun, had a ND, or have someone grab it. Its not unsafe to do it, just awkward

I wonder if that homeless man has hearing damage from firing a gun in a bathroom stall...

That seems like a design flaw, what kind of human being never needs to use the restoom

Design flaw? Implying that a peace of leather or plastic must have features built in that make it stand vertical at all times no matter the position. Be realistic, If you've got something that is held in with your pants and/or a belt that is top heavy, if you remove the tension from that system ie. pull your pants down to take a shit with a top heavy item it's going to want to flop one way or another. One option is to flop it into your pants, which still has the potential to point the muzzle in an unsafe direction. The other is to plop it outside your pants, where depending on the size of the gun or holster it's probably going to want to tip over and point at you. The third option is to take it off, which solves all of that.

There is zero excuse for forgetting your fucking gun, jesus christ.

Reminds me of a former room-mate who was cleaning his house and found a shotgun that he completely forget he had. Just... How?!

I didn't say that it had to remain upright at all times? Your post seemed to imply that the way that the gun tends to come to a rest after pulling your pants is aimed straight at you. If that's the case, then yeah, that would be a design flaw.

i dunno, most stalls have coathooks. Just hang it by the triggerguard.

Why dont you go design the first holster that comes with a built in tripod to keep it upright when youre taking a shit.

Read my post again, please.

I'm directing this less specifically at you and more to everyone in the thread defending the guy needing to do something with his pistol while he was taking a shit and his holster was at an odd angle. But yo if you're gonna carry as a civilian and your holster looks like this http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/db6ed0d8b4c841d9ae60fbdb1eeb9db7/new-york-policeman-details-of-gun-united-stats-of-america-a5cfap.jpg then no surprise it'll flop out. I'm not a gun owner but if I was going to carry a loaded weapon around, I'd make sure it was secured enough that it wouldn't fall out and injure either me or someone else with this amazing and revolutionary invention: http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/weapons/holsters/Holstr09.jpg If my sandals have heel straps to keep my feet from slipping out and touching the ground bare my fucking gun that can kill people at range can have one so it doesn't fall out and discharge. Being a responsible gun owner extends to how you secure your weapon for transport and storage and I'm a little baffled as to why I'm the first one to bring this up. If you need that extra one second of not having to pull a snap flap open so you can kill someone while you're at Whole Foods, America is unfit for civilian inhabitation. Now, there is a good point to be made that if you have a belt holster then your gun can end up being in the holster and pointing inwards at your leg from the belt sagging outwards, leaving you vulnerable to being shot in the leg in the unlikely event that your pistol spontaneously discharges. A holster flap ain't gonna save you from that, so a particularly careful gun owner may choose to take their holster off their belt anyway, even if there's no risk of it falling free. That's an understandable safety step but you have to make absolutely sure you remember to get your holster back on ASAP.

Yeah speaking from personal experience taking a shit with a holster still strapped to your leg can be a bitch. Granted I've never carried concealed holsters, only military Safariland holsters, but I assume both have a tendency of getting in the way. In my case I would prop it up against one of the walls or place it between my feet (former for toilet, latter for stall).

You fundamentally have no clue as to how to properly carry a firearm or what is needed for self defense. This isn't WWI, and people don't need saving from themselves.

Would you like to educate me or are you just going to leave a smarmy zing like last time you replied to me in a gun thread?

I'm going to tell you to go look up youtube videos and read some literature because I'm not going to explain for the hundredth time about how one should carry a gun for the 100th time over the last 12 years. If you don't have the imputes to find this out for yourself nothing I say or do is going to change your mind.

I don't have a horse in this race: I don't own a gun I live in Canada so I have no effective input on US gun laws in any capacity I'm not a gun owner and don't intend on becoming one in the predictable future So from my perspective being told "you don't know the first thing about this topic" is a perfect opportunity for briefly pointing out where I'm wrong, because I know I'm not a gun owner and someone with practical experience carrying a gun in a holster would have a pretty good idea of how to go about it and what to watch out for. I wasn't expecting a gun safety course's transcript regurgitated from memory, but it couldn't have taken much more effort than you've already expended to drop a sentence or two about what I clearly didn't understand. Instead you've just told me I'm wrong and I can go research things myself if I want to find out how I'm wrong because you can't be bothered to put in the effort to drop more than a zinger because I'm supposedly going to just ignore what you say anyway, preemptively abandoning the discussion. Great argument, you've repped gun owners fantastically and I feel inspired to go educate myself so I can empathize with you.

Maybe if you've actually stuck around for the last 12 years I'd care to respond. But the fact of the matter is you haven't, and everyone here who has doesn't bother to look. Every time something like this comes up I'm asked to defend my position, and I do. And every time its like everyone huffed paint and forgot everything myself and other users like grennadiac and Cyke Lon Bee has said and we have to start the process over. So instead of repeating what I have said for the 100th time, instead of retelling my story of how I was almost killed and how I felt like it took forever to draw my pistol from my level 3 holster, instead of explaining my experience carrying a firearm every day, instead of explaining my experience in the military handling full autos, instead of explaining my job of selling firearms to government and private corporations, yes: I'm going to tell you to go look it up. You can;t seemed to be bothered to remember ANY of the hundreds of gun related threads that have passed through SH over the last decade so I wont bother wasting my time explaining to you and everyone else how to carry a gun.

So it's my fault that I don't participate in every gun thread on FP? It's my fault that this is maybe the third gun-related SH/Polidicks thread I've opened on FP in a year that wasn't specifically about a shooting (and even then I usually just book right out if/when the debate turns to 2A)? It's my fault for not having the dedication to go back through the SH archives to read threads made before my time? Well fuck me for remembering things I've never read, I guess.

simpler solution: don't carry a gun with you everywhere like it's the 1880s

You could have literally just said "Because holsters like that are too restrictive if the weapon is needed. I nearly lost my life due to a similar safety mechanism" and you would have made your point equally well. You can't expect people to be fully versed in every single aspect of something that you are passionate about.The reason that they don't know/aren't aware is specifically because it's not an important aspect of their life, so why would they be well versed in it?

I know what you meant. I was pointing out that its dumb to call a holsters inability to remain uprigjt when unsupported a "design flaw".