It may mean freedom of movement between the two countries, that would probably be the best outcome
Hope someday Kim Jong Un burns for what he's done
And how long until Trump takes full credit for it?
Something about the way that sentence was set up about made my heart fucking jump.
As much as he should stand trial for what he's done, I'd sooner see him living in luxury and North Koreans free than continuing the way it is.
I sincerely doubt that will happen, especially any time soon. North Korea won't let their people go and no one in South Korea would ever want to go to the north.
Yeah it's a sad case, there are thousands of family members that are fighting to be reunited though, hopefully this is a step forward for that to happen in some form.
Each year the number of direct family members separated gets smaller and smaller. The older generation may have brothers and sisters that they were separated from, but the younger generation has less and less in common with people in the North
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/world/asia/kim-jong-un-north-korea-talks.html
Here's another article that's relevant to this.
A successful summit between the Koreas later this month could help pave the way for a meeting between Kim and President Donald Trump.
The U.S. president and North Korean leader are poised to hold talks in
late May or June, according to the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA).
I'll be tuning in for this one
Coming from a family in which my entire extended family lives in another state while I only live with my parents and single brother, I sympathize with how much of a tragedy it is to not know your family or its history.
Can't wait for Trump to take all the credit for this
About freakin' time.
North Korea could easily want to get people from the South to help fix up their infrastructure as well as teach the citizens useful modern day skills like computer science and similar things. People from the South would benefit from it because there is cash in it and the North would benefit because they would be modernizing.
After all the worries about US/NK starting WWIII throughout 2017, it sure would be bizarre to see the Syria situation end up escalating matters whereas the North Korea situation peters out.
Man is it unfortunate that this is happening during Trump's presidency. I hope he doesn't fuck this up, because this is important.
I actually feel like that might help.
Think about it. Say you're North Korea. America is being run by an insane, unpredictable, aggressive idiot who's using you as a boogeyman to rile up his support base. You don't want to give him any reason to go to war because you know that war is going to go badly for you. Even if China rushes to your aid, you're still the battlefield in a war between superpowers, and that only ends with North Korea turned to a crater.
Now think about it as South Korea. You also don't want Trump starting a war, because half your population is within artillery range of the North. You've got your own ethics scandals to distract from but after half a century, NK is played out as a threat, so it's actually a better distraction to try to make peace, getting an achievement that can make everyone forget your little corruption problem.
Basically, Trump's acting like a deadline to get them to actually sort their shit out. I don't know if they can succeed but damn if they won't try, not when all it would take to ruin both countries is a bullshit Fox News report on how Kim is days away from nuking Pennsylvania.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if we find out later that the reason NK came to the table in the first place was because a certain NK backer (*cough*RUSSIA*cough*) started pulling some strings to make Donnie not look like as much of an idiot.
I read a post on Reddit by a guy who said he's from SK and didn't hear anything about this on the news. Don't know the veracity of that, but take it all with a grain of salt.
That's called the madman strategy and was something that was employed by Richard Nixon, it's debatable whether or not it was actually effective though. It certainly did not achieve its goal of reaching an end to the Vietnam war.
I don't think this is true. I used to believe it myself. But doing some armchair research, it seems that only the heaviest guns in their arsenal could reach that far. The standard US Howitzer, superior to it's NK counterpart, does not have the range to reach the city limits of Seoul from the border, without the use of rocket propelled ammunition (which is rare and probably not made for the Howitzers that NK uses). So it's reasonable to assume that the majority of NK's arsenal cannot reach Seoul, only the biggest guns and the rocket launchers. That's still bad, but not as bad as it's commonly believed to be, which is that NK is pointing all of their guns at Seoul.
The madman strategy was also (supposedly?) used by Reagan in the Cold War. However, this usage is slightly different - instead of giving your enemies the impression that your leader is unhinged and liable to push the button, so pretty please just give us some concessions to keep him reined in, this is giving our enemies and allies the impression that our leader is unhinged and liable to push the button so kiss and make up so he can't start WW3 because he thinks it'll make for good TV.
It's also different in that Trump is actually a fucking lunatic, while Nixon and Reagan were just aggressive and played that up for foreign media.
Fair point - I don't think they have any gun-type artillery with the 30+ mile range needed. However, North Korea does have a decent stockpile of rocket artillery - not rocket shells for conventional artillery, but actual battlefield-range and theater-range missiles, like the Scud (which they produce variants of), which can easily reach Seoul.
but it will stroke Trump's ego and base to say he ended the korean war. Not that they'll give up nuclear reactors or nuclear weapons, or submit to anything remotely close to the Iran deal given how Donny has approached that deal.
How big is your state?
Still a big deal that this is finally happen after decades of the armistice stance.
Fantastic!
I'm not saying I don't think he should stand trial. I'm saying that I would place the lives of the North Koreans currently being exposed to such atrocities as labor camps before bringing any participant to justice.
Or to put it another way, if there was a treaty which would free the North Koreans, but allow him to live in luxury for the rest of his life, would that not be better than hundreds of thousands, if not millions suffering or dying till another end could be brought?
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