Death penalty only applies to repeat offenders or,
Incident causes Death (Happened back in 2012) or
Where the victim becomes unable to reproduce
Otherwise, the maximum penalty has increased from 10 years to 20
....or it could go the other way, where rapists are now incentivized to kill said children after raping them, to prevent any chances of them becoming witnesses.
As for the Indian headlines, thing - India has a problem, but it's also due to the sheer numbers of it (Even if you said categorically that .1% of India's population were rapists, that's still 1.29 million people you're affecting with your blanket statement, to put things in perspective) and the fact that it's a great at collecting eyeballs for websites, so one incident quickly becomes a media hunt for more incidents of it to keep the trend alive longer.
Not to mention this is a kneejerk reaction from the legislators in response to the Asifa Bano incident to quell public outrage, but like everything the Indian government does - it only treats the symptoms, not the cause. I wish Zonesy would try to get out of there if he could - Civilization, reason and sanity left India a long time ago.
The death penalty seems like the easy way out for people like this.
this is the worst argument possible against the death penalty btw
I have no sympathy what-so-ever for pedophiles. Taking the innocence of children, and destroying their psychological health for the rest of their lives is beyond evil. It's because of that I believe that most pedos, which are convicted for rape and all, deserve the death penalty.
One the one hand its good to see India understands it has a problem and wants to take action to fix it.
On the other hand, I cannot endorse the death penalty for matters of personal opinion. And as snooky pointed out it might just encourage rapists to murder their victims so they can't call the police.
Death penalty is a very dangerous idea solely with how an investigation can be wrong. Once the person is killed, you can't reverse the penalty if it was proven innocent.
Not surprised. India has a HORRIBLE problem with rape these days and they need to do something about it. Is this the right solution? Probably not. Maybe. Iono. Guess time will tell on it. Problem with solving the problem is you can't expect education efforts to put a dent in it for a couple of generations at least.
Child molesters*
Some pedophiles never hurt another being, they just have a grave problem and need to get help. The issue is that a lot of them never do, in large part due to the associated stigma and people who conflate them with actual child rapists.
I think it's been proven time and time again that deterrent alone, however severe, doesn't work for the type of people who would commit such a crime.
There needs to be deterrent, education improvements, mental health services improvements, etc across the board, as well as a change in societal values to really put a dent in the numbers.
No criminal should get the death penalty. There's a long history of people having their names cleared after the state killed them, and as soon as the justice system does that, it becomes no less of a murderer than the people it sentences.
Once again India shows its government has no idea what it's doing.
Disregarding the fact that nobody should be given the death penalty, why does it make sense that someone who rapes a 12 year old girl gets death but a group of men who gangrape a 6 year old boy don't?
This is kinda retarded legislation wise
If you think either of those cases are going to result in an actual carrying out of the sentence, I've got a bridge to sell you.
FFS, one of the sickos involved in the Nirbhaya (the Delhi bus rape case...the very nope one) got let out, on account of the questionable claim that he was a minor, without any documentary proof of it - he now works as a cook in a roadside eatery, IIRC.
This is a knee jerk response because the public became fully aware of the Asifa Bano case and it reached global news coverage - this is pure optics, nothing more. Nothing will come of this, especially from a judiciary that has decades worth of case backlogs. The fact that a bunch of grown adults with rape and murder a little girl in a fucking temple, of all places, for the express purpose of warning off some Muslim travellers who camp in a forest nearby pretty much says enough about how bad Hindu fundamentalism has gotten under Shri Shri Adolph Modi.
No, I already had no faith in India's justice system. I was criticizing their legislature, however, so I'm not sure what the point of your post is other than to imply I'm an idiot.
Naah, I wasn't railing on you - I'm just fucking mad in general at what my homeland has become. Pay no heed to the tone.
this is called an opinion not a fact geel
Okay thanks I genuinely thought that opinions are fact and it wasn't simply an artifact of being a human being and making mistakes.
Your post absolutely justifies its own existence.
please don't misinterpret my post as an attack against you in any way. i'm simply pointing out that appending "the fact that" right before your own personal opinion is a very silly thing to do, even if it's a popularly held opinion.
Sorry. That was a ridiculous response.
Well seeing as the death penalty only applies if they're repeat offenders or the child dies, probably not.
The "death penalty is cheaper" argument only applies, by definition, to nations with severely underdeveloped justice systems. In the US and Europe, the administrative costs of putting someone to death are over double the cost of keeping them behind bars until they die.
Parosh here. I still consider life in cities, especially Mumbai, to be leagues better than anywhere else in India. But I won't lie, first chance I get, I'm outta here.
No solution is ever going to be 100% correct, I see this as acceptable casualty.
Why is that? It would seem more logical that a corpse would cost less than a living inmate.
(genuinely curious)
It seems like common sense that it’s cheaper to execute someone than to house, feed and take care of them for the rest of their natural life. But there are a lot of unavoidable costs that make a death sentence far more expensive than a sentence of life without parole. Most of these costs result from the unique status of the death penalty within the US justice system. Because it’s the only truly irreversible form of punishment, the Constitution requires a long and complex judicial process for capital cases, including several levels of mandatory review after a death sentence is issued. The appeals process takes decades to complete. Studies of the California death penalty system, the largest in the US, have revealed that a death sentence costs at least 18 times as much as a sentence of life without parole would cost.
5 Myths About the Death Penalty
Basically the lawyers cost a lot more than imprisoning someone, and even with these levels of extra review there have been many people, especially people of colour, executed who were later exonerated.
In moral terms, an innocent man behind bars is a MUCH, MUCH worse outcome than a guilty man going free.
Mumbai's better than most cities right now for being slightly more liberal than others, but the sanghis and akhand bharat chutiyas are never far behind, mate.
Get out while you can.
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