China's behavior monitoring system bars some from travel, purchasing property - Sensationalist Headlines

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-social-credit-system-surveillance-cameras/ http://download.cbsnews.com/media/mpx/2018/04/24/1217851971567/0424_CTM_ChinaScore_Tracy_1553417_740.mp4 More in depth look into it's system.

https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/04/24/ee4292b1-b90e-44b5-a9cf-db3cce12d5dd/resize/620x/8d6f33ef205bff97c932dc59831f23f8/ctm-0424-china-surveillance-cameras-social-credit-score.jpg If you are wondering that these say, they are: Adult (Attire description 1) (Attire description 2) Male/Female Top color Pants color For vehicles: Color Type of Vehicle Plate Red highlights are for non-motor vehicles (bicycle) So no, they probably don't know every individual, yet.

In the article/video it states if a bad act is committed they get a close up of the individual. Also it states china has some 176 million cameras and they want 600 million by 2020.

My worry was whether they were able to ID any person on the street and immediately pull all relevant data if needed. Just curious on the state of the tech.

So literally that episode of black mirror with the public ranking shit?

When I was in Beijing I noticed you're covered by CCTV cameras everywhere you go. At tourist spots I noticed CCTV cameras pointed at the entrance of toilets

I don't want to say that was quick, but damn, that was quick. I figured it would at least be 2 or 3 years after the introduction of this system of mass surveillance and identification before China started making these moves, not 2 or 3 months.

Except you don't get rated by other individuals, but by the government.

So the question is, chicken or the egg? Did China get the idea from Black Mirror? Or did Black Mirror get the idea from China? In all seriousness, this is absolutely horrifying. It's almost incomprehensible to me that this is ACTUALLY happening in our current world. The precedent that they're making this out to be acceptable, and so much of the country is accepting of it and not completely throwing an all out revolution against their government is so sad. I know it's easy to call for revolution over the internet where you don't have to do anything, and it would be impossible for any small groups to rebel against them, but surely if the entirety of the country as a whole were to protest, the government would be forced to take SOME kind of action. But I guess that's where China's smart. They've filtered communications so much that the country couldn't even logistically set up a revolution like that if they tried. Any sort of communication about a revolution would be instantly quenched, and probably met with death. I think the only way it could be done is if a foreign power led a massive operation where they air-dropped millions of fliers, USBs, CDs, etc all over the country with information about an organized protest/revolt, and then had that spread more via word of mouth. Otherwise I don't know what the people of China could at this point. What a world we live in...

Wow that indivudual tracking is straight out of Person of Interest

Unfortunately I think that time to act has long since passed. They’re probably not too keen on the idea of protesting after Tiananmen Square, and the massive surveillance along with the implementation of thought crimes would shut down any political movement before it could even begin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOnQ8CD3v4g

They didn't mention in the video one of the, imho, scariest ways to lose Social Credits: If you are connected with people with a low Social Credit amount, your score will also drop. So anyone who isn't in line, will not only lose their job, their ability to travel, their accommodation and other privileges, but most likely a good chunck of their social circle.

Seems like a good way to turn China into a country of a billion paranoid wrecks.

If I were living in China right now I would absolutely not leave the house without at least a ball cap and some big-ass sunglasses on.

Reminds me a bit of the cultural revolution they had.

This is nightmarish.

"The Chinese government is here to purify society." What could go wrong? It's always frustrating when there's a news report about something this shocking and they narrate it in a cheerful tone. I'd definitely speak about something like this with a more abrasive tone because it's so important that the rest of the world doesn't follow suit.

There is absolutely no possible context where the phrase "purify society" does not sound incredibly ominous.

There needs to be an international referendum to ban this kind of Orwellian cyberpunk dystopia type style bullshit. But I have no faith that ANY government aside from Canada or Germany aren't licking their lips and drooling intensely at China for pulling off what every wanna-be dictatorship wanted, absolute power over the mere daily lives of its citizens and the ability to smash dissent before it even begins. In 10 years, you won't even be able to take a shit without the Chinese government being able to rate the social desirability of your asshole and the contents of your shit. Ate too much greasy street food and got diarrhea? You must be a lowlife scumball that has no taste, -10 social points. Time for your whole family to disown you to protect their own social score. It turns my fucking stomach that not even one country that has any power at the international level has spoken out against China for this.

Yeah...about that.... https://youtu.be/KoLHPfeTu1o

How long before this ends up in the west

There was a point when headlines about things that resulted in less privacy had at least a tad of humor to it. There was always a funny joke or reference to be made. But this is just straight up horrible. Once a system like this is in place, it will never go away.