• Memorial to victims of white supremacy opens in Montgomery, Alabama
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/lynching-memorial-alabama.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
That's real fucking powerful
God that top image has so much power to it.
I don't know who had the idea of collecting jars of dirt for each place of lynching they could trace back but that's pretty fucking smart.
I heard about this, didnt know they actually went and made it. Excellent memorial compared to the dozens of civil war ones.
Nice bait you have there.
I wonder if you can search for your county to see its history
That looks incredible. It reminds me of when I saw the holocaust memorial in Berlin. It has that same vibe of using a massive structure to give off a really haunting atmosphere.
Thats not fair at all, those memorials aren't meant to be powerful or to compete with others, they're simply meant for remembrance of those who died in the Civil War. What do they have to do with this?
An example of a reply saying more about the replier than the original statement
Really dude? Can you view this from a different perspective than your own?
Majority of civil war monuments were made during the civil rights era, solely to oppress the rising black independence. https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/blog_confederate_monuments4.gif Even Robert E Lee was against having monuments towards the war: “My engagements will not permit me to be present, and I believe if there I could not add anything material to the information existing on the subject,” Lee wrote to David McConaughy. “I think it well, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered.” Lee knew that the war was over and that everything depended on a new attitude for a new day. He was taken to call on a lady who lived north of Lexington, and she promptly showed him the remains of a tree in her yard. All its limbs had been shot off by Federal artillery fire during Hunter’s raid, and its trunk torn by cannonballs. The woman looked at him expectantly as she showed him this memento of what she and her property had endured. Here was a man who would sympathize. Lee finally spoke. “Cut it down, my dear Madam, and forget it.”
Oh i apologize, i had absolutely no idea. What a massive dick move.
I honestly wasn't a fan of people removing history, but when I first saw that graph it really put things into perspective. I think that any statue that commemorated the civil war that was built solely out of spite during the civil rights era should be either removed, moved to some museum if it has any noteworthy quality to it, or replaced by a different monument. Statues can be used as a symbol of suppression, Stalin's massive statue in Prague was one of them, and was replaced by a giant red metronome
Jesus fucking Christ though, huh: The magnitude of the killing is harrowing, all the more so when paired with the circumstances of individual lynchings, some described in brief summaries along the walk: Parks Banks, lynched in Mississippi in 1922 for carrying a photograph of a white woman; Caleb Gadly, hanged in Kentucky in 1894 for “walking behind the wife of his white employer”; Mary Turner, who after denouncing her husband’s lynching by a rampaging white mob, was hung upside down, burned and then sliced open so that her unborn child fell to the ground.
jesus christ the actual fuck is that last one
It's kinda amazing to see a memorial like this exist. The attitude toward lynching in the us has been weird. I almost want to use the word nonchalant. Once while fishing with my father in law he just pointed to this really old oak tree and stated that it was where they used to "hang the blacks". Here's an article on it Missouri and Ozarks History
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/28/lynching-memorial-backlash-montgomery-alabama
Sleeping dogs? maybe for some people
Of all places to have a memorial like this, Alabama would not be the first one, or even in the top five, I'd expect. Good on them. Let this be a harrowing reminder of the dangers of racism.
This is just a guess, but I'd imagine losing the Civil War and Reconstruction magnified existing racism, along with the south being poor for over a century and a half.
Nice bait you have there.
I think you named yourself 'Silence' as a fortuitous hint to yourself from the past.
"Let sleeping dogs lie" That's why all those statues to slave-owning Confederate heroes were put up in the 1950s/60s as the desegregation/civil rights battle was raging, yeah?
Pot calling the kettle black.
Those statues are brutal.
There are more of the statues from the first image. Lemme find 'em http://expo.advance.net/img/ee74ae53c2/width960/aaa_ap18112844320691.jpg http://expo.advance.net/img/d9c3a043fd/width960/ca1_ap18113693428292.jpg http://expo.advance.net/img/55cf9178b6/width960/476_ap18113692677845.jpg
Oh man those sculptures are heartbreaking.
This certainly would've kept people awake in History Class
Is this a joke?
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