I should have placed bets on that happening, no one would be dumb enough to actually bet against it
lmao play nuclear games win stupid prizes
I guess that explains why they suddenly decided to stop nuclear testing.
Who knew constantly vaporizing dirt/rocks underground was a bad idea.
And there are really people stupid enough to believe that that the reason they are putting test site closure and no more rocket tests on the table is because of Trump's Twitter diplomacy.
It could also be that they don't have the funds nor manpower to excavate everything or even make a new bunker. Designing and creating an underground nuclear test bunker requires funding, manpower and willpower to create that I honestly think NK just doesn't have. On top of that, you now have hidden pockets of radiation that would require digging out. All an All, any political clout to create an nuke is gone now.
I wouldn't be surprised if that massive explosion last year from the North Koreans was actually the system itself collapsing.
Doubtful, they would just move a few hundred metres down the road if that was the problem. That's what the US did when they pock-marked the Nevada Test Site, they just did the next tests in an adjacent area.
North Korea isn't exactly short on manpower and isn't very concerned about worker safety. You also don't need a special test bunker, it's just a hole in the ground which you put your weapon in before backfilling it.
wasn't there some huge fear over the fact that if the facility collapsed, it'd plume out radioactive dust out and pose a threat to a huge area
Not to call anyone a pussy or whatever you'd call it, but I honestly never expected NK to actually be any threat to anyone. Not even SK.
Well maybe a very little threat to SK, since they're neighbours, but absolutely nothing else to anyone else. And the fact that they got nuclear weapon testing was a bigger threat to themselves than anyone else, obviously excluding dangers of a second Chernobyl, which IMO, they would hide with all the strength they didn't even have, to not look weak and laughable in the eyes of the world.
They're a country waiting to colapse. Extremely old tech for just about anything, famine, disease, unprepared military... It's the equivalent of anyone coming from WW2 into the present.
Earlier when all this deal making was starting to happen I had wondered if they maybe had some sort of nuclear accident and were scared/unsure how to deal with it and thus began sincerely asking for help.
Mean words on twitter don't have much to do with it. China reduced 90 percent of its trade to NK. On top of that coal, which is one of their biggest exports has seen a massive reduction in demand globally. Basically NK needs new trading partners and can't be isolated like it use to.
Same here, however them actually attempting or even succeeding to land 1 nuke on people would be one fucking hell of a shitstorm
they got a satellite into orbit and kept it there. They've flown missiles over Japan several times. They have nuclear capabilities and you should thank fuck they didn't decide to go with a live test aboard any of those missiles, regardless of them hitting the ocean, because after the past few random missiles it's become clear nobody's really prepared to shoot the buggers down, and a bomb on the surface anywhere in a decent radius around their country would mean casualties
if something got nailed by a live bomb, countries would mobilize their militaries. Yeah no kidding NK would get wiped off the map vs the world, but you have to consider the fact NK isn't alone. It's consistently supported by China for some reason or another, what if they decide to take sides in defense? We're now at war with China. What's Russia's take at that point, they're just ITCHING for a goddamn war
I think there is an argument to be made that Trump's hardline position on Iran served as an asset in our foreign policy towards North Korea. This is after our Asia pivot a couple years prior.
I don't think the position of North Korea was tenable. It historically depended on both China and the USSR without committing to either while it had an economic edge over the south.at first. Soviet collapse hurt it because it lost oil, while China was taken over by revisionists within the party who would fundamentally have a different relationship to the north and the world because they were becoming more like an empire rather than an exporter of ideology.
The north has no stake in being, by association, a target of the Asia pivot and our renewed tensions with a more aggressive China, which we haven't seen since Maoism failed to export in places like Indonesia. I think they made a calculus and realized their fierce independence in 2018 was no longer possible, and they'd be caught up regional conflict they have no interest in as a junior partner to a country that's not much of a committed ally, has interests elsewhere that put the north at risk, and replicates past tributary status with economic dependence despite fierce Juche independence philosophy that kept the country neutral after the sino-soviet split
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.