Christ I thought that was just something you see in TV shows, cartels are truely evil.
Shit like this makes me wanna stay far away from any vacation in Mexico. Just ain't worth the risk.
It's also senselessly inefficient for getting rid of bodies, making it more of a symbolic gesture than anything, which is horrendous.
Cartels are far worse than TV my man, by miles
I know all about the brutality of what Cartels do, I was just looking for a figure of speech that would describe their brutality. Such as doing things on a daily basis that are normally reserved for the most notorious of characters.
We seriously need to get permission from Mexico to aid their military by putting our own boots on the ground. The cartels are some sick fuckers that can only be dealt with by removing them from one area at a time.
I don't normally support either interventionism nor military force for domestic issues but cartels are a fucking pox that need to be eradicated.
Wouldn't do shit for more than a year or two unless you coupled it with strong economic and educational reform though, and even then you'd need military occupation for (N) years until shit got quiet.
I mean, if the US is still in its "senseless warmongering" phase, we might as well go after an enormous issue right on our border as opposed to something on the other side of the world.
nah, Mexico does actually.
Mexico has quiet a bit of oil, as well as other natural resources, but realistically speaking this is much more pressing then a few resources.
I understand your intentions behind this belief but it's not going to work. You would enter a guerilla war without end.
That's the main thing I think stopping us. Natural resources, a very grateful ally and America looking good in the eyes of the world, smugly boasting that they destroyed Mexico's drug problem are all possible benefits. Problem is if we fuck this up we're going to, like you said, have an insurgency that made Vietnam look like Disneyland.
Even IF we don't fuck it up, it'll take an offensive force that makes the German invasion of France look like some kid's RC plane to cut the head off the hydra fast enough to not have some very pissed off people bombing our own country.
Honestly I haven't researched this extensively but haven't governments tried doing this already. Like they'd drive out cartels and other cartels would just move in and take over an area and new cartels would sprout up from the remnants of eradicated ones.
i would not be surprised if mexico became a total cartel state within the next 30 to 50 years
US would not allow that to happen.
This is when US would intervene because it would be catastrophic for their neighbour to have this happen.
for $160 a week
Stay in the tourist parts of Mexico and you should be fine.
Mexico has never not been a torn up war zone. At this rate it seems like Mexico will never be anything more than a torn up war zone. Their politicians are half the problem.
Boots on the ground are an extreme solution to an extreme problem. The cartels are militarized and no amount of policing or legislation will end their reign.
This isn't some ideology, cartels are motivated by financial and territorial gains. Proper policing and legislation clearly works against them, otherwise we would be seeing more of this in the US.
why would you chill at border crossing for two weeks?
Decriminalization would go farther to de-legitimizing cartels than "boots on the ground".
Even though that is absolutley true, the cartels will not go down quietly. We need to decrim and still root-canal them from their most active bases of operation.
if the people with a military hard-on were as excited about socio-political and economical reform as they are about shooting things, maybe it'd work. you can't just go team america on mexico without a massive, overarching plan to stick around and help rebuild it, and how sustainable would that plan be with the american voting populace? how long until war fatigue kicks in, public opinion shifts, and it becomes politically advantageous to pull out before the job is done?
Cartels are like a Mexican version of ISIS, just without all the Islam and land grabbing
The cartels are the greatest threat to the stability of Mexico.
As well as the greatest threat too the United States. Fuck Syria, Afghanistan, and Iran. We have a fucking war in our backyard which is progressively coming up the steps onto the back patio.
US military intervention in Mexico to fight the cartels would probably worsen the situation. The US market price of cocaine would explode, making it more attractive for the remaining, ultra-violent cartels to keep smuggling cocaine and terrorize the populace.
I always wondered why nothing has been done about the Cartels, especially seeing how they'r right next door to America, which is usually very eager to be the world police.
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