Sajid Javid to be new home secretary after Rudd resigns
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43946845
Sajid Javid has become the UK's first home secretary from an ethnic minority background after Amber Rudd's exit.
The
son of a Pakistani bus driver said he would review immigration policy
to make sure it was fair and people were treated with "dignity and
respect".
Ms Rudd quit after she said she "inadvertently" misled MPs over immigration removal targets.
The prime minister said Ms Rudd resigned because she gave information to MPs that was "not correct".
Ms Rudd told MPs last week the Home Office did not have targets for removing illegal immigrants, but on Sunday the Guardian published a letter
in which Ms Rudd set out her "ambitious but deliverable" aim to deport
10% more illegal immigrants over the "next few years" to Theresa May.
Does anyone know his position on firearms legislation
Been reading his Wikipedia cus I don't know much about him. This from his time as Culture Secretary is pretty nice:
It was reported in May 2015 that in March Javid had opposed plans by Theresa May to give Ofcom "counter-extremism powers" to vet British television programmes before they were broadcast. In a letter to David Cameron he commented that countries which had similar arrangements "are not known for their compliance with rights related to freedom of expression and the Government may not wish to be associated with such regimes".
Opposed to Rudd who basisically said anybody reading naughty stuff on the internet should be locked up for 15 years.
He seems pretty cool but i can't find a thing about firearms which rubs me the wrong way
If i have to deal with yet another HS that waves through whatever they get from some twat who wants to ban everything under the sun because they're too busy with some other shit i'm gonna be depressed
Firearms legislation is one thing in this country you can guarantee is going to remain the same or get tighter. They have zero reason to loosen restrictions.
Bastards
Loosening gun regulations would be a fucking tragedy. Last thing this country needs is to end up like the US.
Literally how, we've got a great strong licensing system so theres no point to banning certain weapons considering people who can have them are vetted extremely well by the police.
Yeah, I'm hopeful, but he holds up Ayn Rand and Margaret Thatcher as two of his idols, so that is less hopeful.
Or maybe I don't like the idea of anyone in cities being allowed to own a weapon that can effortlessly kill countless people in a way that no other weapon in the UK can?
You can't be very politically active in the UK if you honestly think we're getting gun restrictions loosened. For one thing, very few people need them, and I really don't want to be reading about stupid mass shootings every week again.
I'm pretty surprised about how many people from the UK in this thread care about getting guns back. It's not that I don't find them cool, but we have lots of other more pressing issues to worry about and I know literally nobody who actually wants things like Dunblane to become a regular occurrence like they would become with a liberalisation of gun policy.
>he seems pretty cool
Guess again, he's a typical tory
I wouldn't worry - the vast majority of people are reasonable enough to realise it's a terrible idea to introduce guns on a meaningful scale. The rest are often ideologues.
Even if he was manically pro-gun count me out then, ffs I assumed we'd got someone different on his immigartion position
I must apologize, first to you Saint for that "quaking in your boots" comment, that was childishof me and secondly that i really don't mean loosing regulation for the means of making it easier.
I mean less regulation and the removal of the firearms acts following Dunblane and Hungerford shootings to allow ownership of pistols and semi-automatic rifles but with the extra regulation brought in by earlier acts.
Not making it easier to get firearms, I highly disagree with 90% of US pro-gun dogma and firmly believe firearms are dangerous weapons and not just simple tools.
Only reason I say "Bastards" is that the tories for some reason support going after every gun owner in the country for no reason whatsoever, like how after the Vegas shooting they tried banning "rapid fire rifles" only to discover we don't have any and tried to ban .50 caliber weapons only to discover they've never been used in a crime lmao
single-issue voting is one hell of a drug
I appreciate that you have a position on gun reform and that you're arguing for it in a reasonable way, but I honestly don't know why you would want gun legislation weakened except for fun? If it's just for fun, I'm not so sure it's worth the amount of people who end up dying as a result. At least America has more reasons for it, what with their cougars and such.
Because, at least to me personally, just like the rest of Europe we have some of the toughest restrictions possible but i mean the right ones
For example, you need to have a gun safe, if you can't install one you can't get a gun. If a doctor says you're not fit, for any reason, you can't have one. Said doctor (or even another doctor) can change their mind and then you get them taken away
If the police decide you can't have one, you probably get it taken away even if the reason is small.
If you break the law for any reason, you get them taken away.
If you buy ammunition illegally even for a legally owned gun, you get them taken away.
And even after all of this you can only shoot them on your own land or at a military/private range.
Whilst there are are a sizable amount of shooters who disagree with this i actually highly encourage it and am thankful for having such weirdly ruthless policing of it bceause thats why we've had so little shootings. If you look back at Dunblane and Hungerford, yes the weapons used meant a higher death toll (except for Dunblane because the sick cunt went after kids) the police were found to have ignore all warnings about the subject in question. Just like the American police. THe psychiatrist of the Dunblane bloek straight up told them he was nuts.
The only thing i'd dream of getting back is the ability to legally own semi-automatic rifles and pistols on a firearms licence (which is vetted the most out of any firearms licence) to people who the police, medical establishmenta nd other authorities have deemed legally able to own such weapons.
I would never ever support their purchase for self defence or for the legal ownership of fully automatic firearms or the silly idea of the right to own them.
This is simultaneously the most unexpected gun control thread I've ever seen, the first one I've ever seen to contain no Americans, and the first one I've seen in a long time that is actually somewhat interesting to read
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I wouldn't mind them opening up the FAC to a few more calibres, it's already tough to get. I don't see any need for handguns though. We have essentially zero 'gun culture' in the American sense here and I think that's a good thing.
Because we won't get a gun culture due to all the idiots that create one not being able to get them in the first place, Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man are doing just fine with them and i see no reason why we shouldn't have them cosnidering we were completly fine when we did have them.
Also, what do you mean by calibres? FAC doesn't have any calibre restrictions.
Anyone who was expecting a vaguely sensible HS appointed by Theresa May was I think a little bit too optimistic. Her rule is shaky enough as it is at the moment, she doesn't want someone who isn't going to back her up in such a prominent position.
We Brits have to hide our gun control discussions behind unrelated thread titles that no freedom-loving American would dare click on
you're right. I thought it was restricted to .22 with something like .308 allowed in specific cases.
Thats the semi-law but minus the .308 : (
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