• Kanye West just said 400 years of slavery was a choice
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/01/entertainment/kanye-west-slavery-choice-trnd/index.html
What does that even mean?
it means exactly what it means.
"[T]o make myself clear. Of course I know that slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will. My point is for us to have stayed in that position even though the numbers were on our side means that we were mentally enslaved." This gives what he said at least a little context.
I don't see why people struggle to understand that's what he saying saying, I don't even like Kanye
Hes just being controversial for the sake of it. He came on TMZ, gave really no explanation for a really hard statement and kept going on with it with the understanding of the worst version of it.
He's been rambling on a lot of shit lately, also pretty certain he's going to run for president :V maybe this is him just trying to get his image back in the spotlight and his "movement" will be free speech
It means he doesn't know that the Mali empire's economy was built on the backs of slaves digging up a shiny yellow metal in exchange for selling it at a huge markup for salt to keep the slaves from dying, and books or other northern commodities which were ludicrously expensive due to the Mali Empires remote location. Because Mali was forged out of a massive civil war and as with the times slavery was practiced against soldiers who lost and were not killed, Mali had vast slave acquisitions from the civil war that destroyed the Ghana empire and Saomaro King of sosso getting his ass whooped. Then the Portuguese came in and saw opportunity as they always do and because the Mali nobles REALLY liked northern goods like guns 'n, clocks 'n shit they enacted more and more laws to trip people up into slavery to sell them. So in a sense it was a choice but not one made by those enslaved and Kanye is just a moron who knows nothing of history.
i cant believe i pay taxes for facepunch posts
i mean, does he think there weren't slave revolts and shit?
a post on /r/kanye has an interesting take on this https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/8ggfcb/kanye_west_is_a_genius_for_all_of_this_and_let_me/
Those are some damn fine mental gymnastics there seeing as how everyone in the thread is falling for it.
I was a kanye stan for like, ten years, but since he reactivated twitter he has been so ignorant and full of "himself" (beyond what you could consider his norm) and his own little bubble is just too much. his co-signing candace owens and now this is so beyond any type of justification. he won't listen to anyone but himself and he's being adopted by republicans / the 'alt-right' in a disgusting way for it. don't idolize celebrities I guess.
Somehow I don't think a person currently riding Trump's shriveled Alf nose should be telling anyone about learning to love and not being manipulated.
here's a response during the situation at TMZ https://youtu.be/s_M4LkYra5k
I think it's fair to say Kanye has a very poor understanding of social dynamics and the media in question has also attempted to push their narration of this as far as they can without regard for context or clarity, so not really case of he/she said and more a case look at this pile of crap in one place at one time and look at all these individuals vapidly wallowing in it.
Kanye likes to say things that are provocative because he assumes that saying something that provokes a response means it's deep or thoughtful.
Why are we still listening to this cunt?
His music is great but Kanye West has been personally having an extended public meltdown for the better part of a decade, so I'm not really sure why people are shocked or offended by any of this.
Sometimes it feels like the internet has done that to our society as a whole.
Even in context it's not very good. "The numbers were on our side". Okay, if that's so simple, then why can't the poor folk of the world escape oppression of the greater classes? "The numbers are on their side" after all. Systematic issues go far deeper than that and analogy or not it is a very poor one that fails to realize the greater systematic issues of what's presented. Slaves were under constant threats and propoganda. There were plenty of slave rebellions, but they didn't work out because the system wouldn't allow it. Memetics and systematic power hold far more clout in the systems we build than "numbers". "I'm just trying to encourage free thought, even that statement was free thought." No Kanye, it was ignorant and wrong. Just because you said something doesn't make it brave or bold or "Thought provoking", else we'd have homegrown aristotles here from shitposts on facepunch.
Just comes of as Kanye trying to stay relevant really.
This is Van Lathan. He's an impeccably good speaker, and really the only one from TMZ with a semblance of dignity. He also has his own show on Youtube afaik.
Thank you! I'm gonna check out his show.
How is slavery even real haha just walk away?
It goes without saying that some kanye fans are huge sycophants that will eat up anything he does and call him a genius.
I don't think he's made any research into this at all...
The vibe I've always gotten from Kanye is that he's developed a cult like following of people who think he's like this great genius artist when in actuality he's just a crazy narcissist
so the entire meltdown last year was intentional?
https://youtu.be/TkHKMPvNTZQ
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