China is legit about to be on some Watch_Dogs/Person of Interest type shit
Seriously, if chemical weapons can be banned under international treaties, this sort of shit needs to be banned as well.
God, if only
How long until this is used to question people's true loyalty to communist values?
How long until you realize it already happened 40 years ago and now their just doing it in different ways.
God that made me shiver. It seems so plausible at this point.
Elaborate.
To be honest it sounds like all this is being used for is ensuring good mental health and preventing stressed workers from going off the deep end.
Probably does wonders for workplace accidents as well.
Why is there always one person in every thread who thinks China's incredibly intrusive invasions of privacy are somehow justifiable
they've literally gotten to the point of scanning your brain without your consent
It's already a country that works miserable people to death my man, making employees more productive by making them happier is better than putting up nets to foil suicide attempts.
it's already happening, they have camera's everywhere that scan people's faces
I think driving your employees to extreme paranoia with the knowledge that their brain waves are being scanned every second of the day is actually a step down from the net, personally.
There are some ominous implications, but taken as-is the technology described in the article seems quite benign and beneficial. Identifying employees who are stressed, unfocused or otherwise unwell is a legit problem for companies trying to be efficient and avoid accidents. They can't actually read your thoughts.
Yet.
get me out of this dystopian shithole i'm barreling towards please
i'd sooner have a nitro round go through my head than literal, actual government mind reading satellites fuck OFF
Personally if I were in working conditions such as the ones of a chinese factory worker I'd rather be offered a break when I need it than just subjected to the conditions.
Someone who's under grotesque conditions isn't going to care about the ominous implications of something if it significantly improves their day to day quality of life.
We're already at the point where we're able to decode what's happening in a few specific parts of your brain. I remember some four, five years back, possibly longer, where scientists had someone's primary visual cortext hooked up, and they were shown a series of images... and using only signals captured from their brain, they were able to reproduce very fuzzy images of what the subject was looking at in that moment as the test images were rotated out.
The brain is only going to be mapped in more detail as time progresses. We can only get more accurate. Miniaturization and wearable tech can only become more advanced.
Then we can finally get that real cyberpunk body horror going, with mandatory surgical implants if you want to be promoted above minimum wage or enter the lowest level of management. That's the perfect next wave to go with China's social credit scheme based on omnipresent facial recognition that'll punish you for not ostracizing and shunning friends who might be disruptive to social order. And then after some years it leaks that China's managed to isolate a region of the brain considered primary to thoughts of social disruption and political activism and they've been targeting it the whole time.
I've gotta say that I expected the age of cyberpunk to be cooler, but instead we live in an age of Uggs, fidget spinners, and still having to use our hands to communicate input to computers while the digital frontier is annexed away by corporations and authoritarian states.
The way china is exploiting its workers is beyond horrible
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Here's the crackpot thought of the day: This can train some really mentally-strong people.
Imagine you are Winston of 1984 but instead of waxing lyrical about your situation, you game the system. You disassociate your actual convictions from the emotional impressions, effectively freeing yourself from all kinds of brainwashing. Not many can abstract the actuality of their being from their physicality and the world around them.
China, bringing the dystopia to you one day at a time
No offense but you'd have to be so incredibly naive to think that a communist dictatorial state is going to use this for welfare instead of consolidating power.
I'm a little bit skeptic about this article, sounds like fearmongering.
At State Grid Zhejiang Electric Power in the southeast city of Hangzhou, company profits jumped by $315 million since the technology was introduced in 2014
Correlation does not imply causation and EEG brainwave analyzers are really expensive, and the cheapest models can't efficiently detect "emotions"
China is still a dystopian state though
I can see why ya'll are spooked, reading minds plus a strict, nosy goverment usually doesn't end well. The article acknowledges this too. For now though, the uses of this tech seems harmless, helpful even:
Jin also said that employees’ brainwaves can be enough for managers to send them home.
“When the system issues a warning, the manager asks the worker to take a day off or move to a less critical post. Some jobs require high concentration. There is no room for a mistake.”
Another type of sensor, built by technology company Deayea, is reportedly used in the caps of train drivers on the high-speed rail line between Beijing and Shanghai. The sensor can even trigger an alarm if a driver falls asleep.
i think that's a fairly naive view on what this is going to be used for
'Country notorious for having horrible working conditions creates intrusive technology specifically to help said workers'
Yeah sounds super plausible dude. It's a culling system to remove unstable workers that can cause problems down the line, like replacing a machine that's about to break.
Obviously it has spooky implications but if they had nefarious plans they'll do them anyway, this specific implementation appears to be doing some good for the workers.
You're assuming a zero-sum game here though, if they want profits, and happy people make more profits, they're going to want happy people.
The ultimate goal of the Chinese Government isn't to make 1984 real, it's to make the people with the strongest influence in the government wealthy and secure in their power. If you can attend to the needs of people as they need them and make them happy you don't need dystopian control.
I'm also not pretending that this tech couldn't absolutely be abused in a multitude of horrifying ways. I'm just saying this specific use really isn't that bad considering where workers in China are right now.
Great leap forward
Paranoia about what, the fact that they're going to get their thoughts stolen by the thought goblins?
You might want to double check with the article that this tech is what you think it is.
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I know what the tech is; thanks funny man. It's still nerve racking. Imagine if you have depression - now you have to worry that your employer is going to think you're constantly being unproductive. Sad about something unrelated? Better pep up before work. Your feelings are some of the most intimately private parts of the human psyche and they're violating that. It's fucking stupid to be like "what are you scared of??? Thought goblins??? Lol " just because the invasion of privacy isn't as bad as it could be. Especially when it's only not that bad because the technology that would allow them to do that doesn't exist yet.
Not to mention it's rather nai'ive to think this is going to be used to the workers' benefit. It's just going to be used to weed out workers who are aware of the shitty conditions they're in and unhappy about it. I can imagine they're going to use this to nip any thoughts of unionization or strikes in the bud before they can even discuss it with other coworkers by looking for people who are consistently unhappy when coming into work.
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