• UK local election results: Labour 😕 Tories 😕 Lib Dems 😊 Greens 🙃 UKIP ⚰️
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43997872
I hope lib dems keep up gaining good ground under their new leadership.
Apparently the final BNP Councillor has fallen, and by the looks of things UKIP won't be too far behind in the not too distant future.
And thus do we hear the swan song of UKIP Except it’s less of a song and more a sad, quiet fart as it shuffles off stage
Glad UKIP are losing seats but it seems that the Toires are claiming a lot of those votes
it's the big tent quo party vs a handful of splintered progressive options, as always.
While speaking of UKIP collapse, [English] Greens and others includes Traditional three parties in English politics did well good job taking rest of UKIP cake.
This is amazing https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/992344408350691329?s=19
So what are the Lib Dems like? Are they decent?
Usually culling the lower classes is the Tory message, no-wonder the Conservatives mopped up the old UKIP seats.
Plus, It doesn't matter what leadership in, They will landed nearly if not exactly same in every election due of nation's voting system effecting their chances of their winning.
Labour apparently had it's best result since 1971, while they didn't do as well as some thought they would I'll say it was far from bad or even mixed. The turnout was also abysmal, as is often the case with these smaller elections. Also what should be talked about is that Labour came close to seizing Westminster, one of the strongest Tory fortresses in the country and which has never been anything but Tory. Very interesting.
they're fine, they pretty much live up to their name and i don't know of any serious misgovernance by them. unfortunately in 2010 they broke a pledge not to raise tuition fees when they joined a coalition with the conservatives, which really fucked them up since like 90% of their voters are students. they've clearly gained back a lot of trust for local and parliament elections, but fuck any chance of becoming more than an obligatory third party
Wank. They basically were kingmakers last time they were ever relevant, back in the 2010 general elections and chose to crown the Tories and fuck over the students BIG TIME despite promising them support (they raised the tuition fees massively, after promising to cut them down.). They were destroyed beyond repair in 2015, nominated a religious bigot as their leader from 2015 to 2017 and are claiming to be the anti Brexit party, despite the fact they claim they will refuse to work with Labour but haven't ruled out working with the Tories (the Brexitters). They are the most milquetoast centrists you can possibly imagine, complete with the utter incompetence and tone deaf attitude. Even if they did well today, they will forever struggle to do anything in the main election.
Well right now they are Fourth party by seat and membership otherwise since 2015 after Scottish National Party take their spot first time in recent British history. Historically they used be big third party alternative like it's political original predecessor ([British] Liberal Party and shortly Social Democratic Party-Liberal Alliance) before 2010 election.
People should stop focusing on the student fees, yes it terrible for students (and I imagine a fair amount UKFPers are probably uni students here) but there were other issues as well. The amount of things the managed to stop the tories from doing whilst they were in coalition was decent, if Nick Clegg could have had it his way he would have stopped the student fee increase too but there's only so much you can do in that position. The leadership in 2015-2017 was a massive mistake though, Tim Farron really didn't hold liberal beliefs It sucks as their manifesto is normally the best out of the main parties if you give them a read.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44002065 One of Green Party's co-leader respond with their little success.
Projected national share has Labour and the Tories tied. (this is a projection, based on the results, of what the vote share would have been if this was a UK-wide election. Change is from 2014, the last time these councils were up for election) https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/992402722392625152
BBC just killed a dude https://twitter.com/BBCNWT/status/992376672941953025?s=19 https://twitter.com/mikehealy61/status/992410054157651969?s=19 https://twitter.com/BBCNWT/status/992429177855934465?s=19
Twitter murders aside, i fucking hate it when politicians get their own way through underhanded tactics like this, I honestly think it's one of the bigger sources of political disenfranchisement. "oh the votes didn't go our way?!.... looks like they did now!." It's easy to see why people lose faith in the system when those in power have so many underhanded tricks up their sleeves. What's the use in voting against something when voting against it might not even matter because your vote can be countered by something completely out of your control?.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/992287533600948229?s=19
I mean it seems like Labour are doing really well and should give the party hope for the next country wide elections
labour, although an objectively better choice than the tories, still need to do some serious work to be considered a serious choice in the generals IMO. Jeremy corbyn comes across as a complete joke, his wet wipe attitude towards the russia scandal and use of Harry Potter's invisibility cloak during the entirety of the brexit campaign really but a skid mark on them. They'd entirely energise a much larger group of people if they weren't beating round the bush with the brexit shit and just objectively went "We'll have another vote", but he isn't doing a Tim Farron and putting his party before his personal vices. It's not exactly like half of labour are happy with that either. Bleugh. I'd just rather anyone than the tories now, and the results of that local election are looking slightly better
Labour would be hit hard if it opposed brexit right now. They rely massively on working class northerners, whom overwhelmingly voted leave.
I find it really depressing that some of the people who would benefit the most from Labour's policies would drop the party like a sack of spuds at the first sign they are resisting the retarded of Nigel Fromage frais to remain relevant / David Hameron's incompetent gamble. "sorry, you better not try and stop the right-wing from fucking us over, or we might just go and give them the mandate to fuck us over even harder!"
Friendly reminder that some areas that voted most heavily in favor of brexit also received the most in EU funding. This is why you don't use referendums for huge complicated political changes.
that has to be fake, it plays out like a comedy sketch.
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