• 200 migrants in south German town prevent deportation of Togolese man by police
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The 23-year-old man was to be deported from where he was staying, a refugee accommodation in the small town of Ellwangen. The large group of migrants mainly from Africa had surrounded the patrol cars and pestered the police. Some of the men hit the police patrol cars and the vehicles were damaged as a result, reports the Stuttgarter Zeitung (SZ). The migrants then sent a security officer from the refugee home to act as an intermediary and gave the police an ultimatum: take the Togolese man's handcuffs off within two minutes, otherwise they would storm the entrance gate of the accommodation. The police decided to give the security officer a key so that he could release the 23-year-old from his handcuffs. The Togolese migrant has reportedly since gone into hiding. https://www.thelocal.de/20180502/200-migrants-in-south-german-town-prevent-deportation-of-man-to-congo Follow-up the next day: Authorities have now responded by sending hundreds of officers to the refugee home in Ellwangen. During the operation at the refugee home in the Baden-Württemberg town of Ellwangen on Thursday morning, several men were taken into custody. Police have since confirmed that the arrested man was the 23-year-old Togolese man who was supposed to be deported on Monday. Several people were injured during the police deployment. Some refugees jumped out of the windows of the building, suffering minor injuries. Three police officers were also lightly injured, but were able to continue working. Members of the emergency services had "a lot to do," a police spokesman told local reporters. "Since there were serious statements from the migrants that if the police reappeared, they would not only defend themselves in a similar manner, they would also prepare by arming themselves," officials during the operation sought to find "weapons and dangerous objects," the police said on Thursday. https://www.thelocal.de/20180503/hundreds-of-police-officers-deployed-at-refugee-home-after-mans-failed-deportation Also SZ reports the man was to be deported to Italy, not Togo (where he entered the EU). What an absolute shitshow.
Oh hey, that is 5 minutes away from my workplace. Saw several videos of people filming more then 20 police vans lining up to the old military base where all the refugees are sheltered right now.
Yeah, they need to be careful - Germany is being nice but it won't take long for them to flip back to their natural side
Natural side being what? Sturmgeweres and SS?
Losing world wars.
Time to turn 1 deportation into potential 200 at that place. Tough topic though, I know from somebody who worked with refugees, especially with kids, that it isn't easy but on the other hand I mostly agree with the with the stance that refugees should show more respect for what Germany and other places offer, especially if you came from a real bad place. Then again, the loud trouble makers are usually not exactly from those places in the first place.
If you can at all find justification to give these ungrateful cunts the boot, just do it imo. What the fuck do you owe them, if they don't even conduct themselves with gratitude, let alone contribute to society.
Obviously, Germany owes them nothing, they are just trying to be nice and offer them a better life, but if that gets thrown back in Germany's face, they might want to reconsider
Send the lot home. There are better people craving the same migration opportunity without behaving like entitled little shits.
"Gratefulness" has nothing to do with deportation process, nor does it have much to do with contributing to society either. If people have the opportunity to build a better life for themselves, they will most likely do so, grateful or no. If refugees have nothing to do besides spend their days in a facility with deportation constantly looming over them, anyone in that position would become unhappy and rowdy.
There's so much missing from this story. What was he being deported for? Why did the crowd protest his deportation so strongly? Sounds a lot like the media spinning a story to drum up hatred towards refugees.
There, the 23-year-old waits for his deportation to Italy, where he first arrived in the EU, said the Interior Ministry. According to the so-called Dublin agreement, refugees must apply for asylum in the EU country they first entered. https://faz.net/agenturmeldungen/dpa/togoer-soll-schnell-nach-italien-abgeschoben-werden-15573806.html In the "Bild" newspaper (Thursday), a man said, posing as the 23-year-old Togolese. "The police tried to deport me in February. Germany says "Welcome" to us refugees. They give each person a Duldung [document about the temporary suspension of deportation, which basically means you are still obliged to leave the country, but you are tolerated to stay until travel becomes possible, EG. in the case you need to get your passport from your country of origin] "he said. His "brothers" have now come to his aid, "he said, referring to the failed police operation. https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/30110480 Friendship, I guess. It's not, every single german newspaper and newssite is reporting on the same thing. Also thelocal.de is a reputable source, moreover with a slight center-left bias. Boredom and frustration is not an excuse to forcefully obstruct policeman in their work, let alone make violent threats against them, or about arming themselves up. This is unprecedented. These are the things that carry a minimum 3-5 year prison sentence for any german citizen. Germany has to demostrate that the aslyum seekers actions have actual consequences, because if they make exceptions, soon every single rejected asylum seeker will require the presence of dozens or hundreds of armed policeman to keep order. That is obviously unsustainable, dangerous (to everyone) and ridiculous. We are not even talking about stricter measures, just upholding the basic law of the state.
Send them all home, how was this acceptable in any way? there is no defense you go to a country, you follow its laws.
Nobody said crimes were excused, but we very well know that uncomfortable circumstances lead to criminality. It's better to prevent crime so you don't have to stop.
If we're going to play that game, then the best way to deter criminality is to prevent them from coming to Europe where two cultures come into conflict with each other. The human psychology shown here makes it evident that these people show more loyalty to their fellow man than respect the rule of law of their host nation. There's obviously a lot of dissatisfaction that has prompted this situation. Long term, Africa needs to offer better prospects to its economically active population so they have prospects in their own countries, instead of coming to Europe and causing trouble when their situation doesn't improve. European countries should be working to create a better Africa instead of continuing to let in migrants at the current rate, where they're being put in these holding conditions. It'd be better for both continents. If they're going to continue to come to Europe, they have to respect the law.
man i wish everyone was rich so we didn't have crime anymore
You are absolutely reich!
i mean there's also a better way to prevent them from coming to europe stop bombing the ever loving fuck out of their home country like, yes, this was a shit thing that happened but people also need to be aware that these countries - and my own - have a duty to take in the people whose homes they are flattening. Their lives as they know it, their family members, destroyed by us. It's not as if these people are wanting to go on a nice holiday to europe.
We can't really stop bombing their shit when we're not the ones doing the bombing. Like, i agree that the ones bombing the shit out of them needs to both stop AND take more migrants, but America gon 'Muricuh. They don't give a single fuck whose heads they take a dump on in their search for oil and a sense of superiority.
This is good praxis. Fuck the bootlickers, I hope they never find him.
We're bombing Togo?
You can't just ~send them all home~ at the snap of your fingers. Deportation of non-refugees is a long process, deportation of refugees from war torn countries however is a whole different ball game. The time and money spent doing such a thing totally legally is pretty wasteful for refugees who aren't generally an actual threat.
Winning holocausts :buddy: :fp:
I really don't understand what was the point of this whole emotional appeal, considering: The only country that had bomb strikes by western coalition forces in recent times was Syria. (Virtually no air strikes in Iraq this year, and this is likely to remain, considering the defeat of ISIS there last year) Bombings, and related casualties in Syria have significantly decreased [1] For Syrian applicants, the aslyum acceptance rate in Germany is a whopping 99.8% [2] Almost everyone accomodated at the german facility we are talking about are from Sub-Saharan Africa
Threatening police officers and damaging their cars does make them ~an actual threat~.
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