• Boys aged 13 and 15 shot in Wealdstone, north-west Londo
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44024948 Two boys aged 13 and 15 have been shot in north-west London. The 15-year-old was found wounded in Wealdstone High Street at about 13:15 BST. Minutes later, paramedics alerted police officers to the 13-year-old, who had also been shot on the same road. They are both in hospital. In a separate attack, a 22-year-old suffered non life-threatening wounds in a shooting in New Cross Road, Lewisham, at about 18:30. Palmerston Road, just off Wealdstone High Street, was blocked off with police tape and manned by uniformed officers on Sunday evening. The Met Police said the younger victim had suffered a shotgun pellet wound to the head. Both boys suffered head injuries but neither was thought to be in a life-threatening condition, the force added. Kind of disturbing to see kids this young being pulled into this shit, but then there are places in the US and beyond where it's a daily occurrence.
What purpose does bringing up the United States in a UK crime thread serve besides baiting reactions. But anyways I'm completely relieved that the boys survived and I hope they catch the guy responsible, I'm also extremely curious why they were shot.
I honestly don't think that was his intention. I think he meant it in the sense that it must be really depressing for Americans due to this sort of thing happening so often.
Except it really doesnt happen as often as people like the OP want you to believe
When there are so many mass shootings that they aren't even all reported on in the mainstream news, it happens too much. I think it's pretty insensitive for you to suggest that the OP 'wants' anybody to believe anything - he is just sharing his perception of it. I know the Americans in forum can be sensitive about the gun issue, sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly, but I think you're misinterpreting the OP.
Lol OP is that a joke? Gun crime is pretty regular in inner-city London districts, you just don't hear about it. Why do you think Armed Response Vehicles are a thing? They literally patrol throughout the inner city acting as normal traffic cops so they can be on-call for a firearms incident.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I was referring to gang crime in US cities and beyond where you hear of kids and other regular people getting caught up in the crossfire. No political agenda about it, mate I'm probably one of the few people in the UK who doesn't have a fearmongering view of US gun laws either so you can get off the horse before you even ride it.
I'm not really an anti-gun person but tons of people, including children, get shot and die every day in America. There's definitely a gun violence problem here that doesn't exist elsewhere.
Brazil.
Thread is about UK not US. Move on.
If they had a gun they could have protected themselves
I'm not even sure if this is a serious or meme reply.
Let's assume it's a shit-post in super-position: Both a serious reply and meme reply, simultaneously.
Exactly correct
It is every American's right to be able to defend themselves, even if they're children from the UK.
Protectorate privilege
Can we not?
SKS is just shitposting, he's been doing it in other recent gun related threads. He's against gun ownership, judging by his stance that guns contribute to poverty. Though that stance is so nuts maybe that was a shitpost too, who can tell?
I don't support it but how is it "nuts", seeing as many countries ban ownership in most cases?
You'd think with his name he'd be pro-gun.
I think he's referring to SKS's (serious or otherwise) stance that guns contribute to poverty, not being anti gun in general.
Completely unsurprised, London is a cesspit of gang violence, drugs and racial tension, best thing I did was moving out.
Well for one following the masses on a immensely complex issue isnt always right and comparing country to country on such issues is definitely not right. Secondly, he was saying how its nuts to believe guns contribute to poverty. You can disagree with us on gun politics but you cant possiblely say that you and SKS arent shitposting at this point.
Well, my post was clearly a joke, but I also didn't say that guns contributed to poverty, I missed that bit in the post I was replying to.
Due to the conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, many gangs are now able to get access to military grade equipment, and as such the number of firearm-based attacks will increase. I'd still imagine that acid, knives, and IED attacks will still be used far more often. You will not see small street gangs using firearms, namely because they carry way to much of a sentence for use, but it's likely that sheet metal and 3D printed guns will come into use, but mostly be used as fire and fishing accident type deal. If those 3D Printed and sheet metal guns come into use, its very likely too influence the criminal scenes, similar to how it has in Australia and the Philippines.
I'm referring to thinking that guns contribute to poverty is nuts. I don't agree with [the Democrat's idea of] gun control but I can see why people want it. I'm just an idealist who believes we can reduce violent crime without a convoluted web of restrictions or a simplistic ban.
There has been no change in the availabiliy of guns in the UK, we have pretty tight border control, most of what does get through it is smuggled over from eastern europe and rarely consists of anything more than pistols and small smg, no idiot is going to attempt to carry a military grade rifle around with them. Also 3d printing isn't viable for making a proper gun and likely will not be for quite a long time, it's far easier to convert a blank firing gun to fire live ammunition than muck about doing anything else.
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Is this an absolute joke?
Oh you got me wrong, good friend. When I was saying that they are now able to get access to military grade firearms, I was more referring to the fact that they are becoming more available to those on the lower-echelons of criminal activities. Said groups would of course choose not to use them as they carry a much worse jail term, as UK Law would pretty much ass-rape you for a few years in court before sentencing you even. Not to mention that SNS weapons are far easier to hide and get rid of. When it comes to the ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and Syria though, whenever a downturn in violence occurs, many of the militia groups begin to sell captured weapons off into the blackmarket. For the most part, they are likely to just recirculate... But on the rare case that said weapons do not just recirculate, it's possible that they'll eventually reach markets in Central/Eastern Europe where they'll be mostly kept by rich collectors. They tend to have quiet the interesting taste in "rare" firearms. I suspect that sheet metal/3D Printed handguns though will start coming into work more frequently though, namely beause of the ease of access to information on the internet mostly. With guys like Professor Parabellum, Luty, and Palading Press putting out stuff for download, the manufacture of guns is just down too people with time and equipment. I'd imagine derringer styled weapons, like in India, will be most popular. IIRC, from what a police friend told me, in the UK firearms are cycled around via the gangs, and are rented out. Not sure if that is exactly true, but could you specify if it is?
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