Israel offended Japan prime minister by serving him dessert in a shoe
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https://www.businessinsider.sg/israel-served-japan-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-dessert-out-of-a-shoe-2018-5/?r=US&IR=T
I mean you don't even have to be from Japan to know that giving someone the 'shoe' is pretty much a big no no in alot of cultures.
Besides why the fuck would you eat dessert out of a shoe
Why the fuck were they served food out of a shoe in the first place?
Theres a foot lettuce joke somewhere in this article.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WeWantPlates/
The article kind of reads that it was the decision of the chef, not Netanyahu.
Either way, it should be the job of their secretaries checking references on customs and traditions of the other country and making sure everything is alright.
I like how it says that being served food out of a shoe is disposed by Japanese people, as though this is something that happens commonly enough that the Japanese have specifically grown to despise it.
If I was in his stead, I'd be seriously questioning whether I'm being mocked if I was the only one being served a dish in a shoe, but that wasn't even the case so I don't see why it would be offensive.
Behave yourself! By Amaterasu, I will give you a taste of my shoe!
i was expecting a tiny shoe made of chocolate or something
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/172/43cf3bb9-b0a7-46cc-bd44-211e63afd042/image.png
this, uh, sure is something else
So I'm not a cultural anthropologist or anything, but Israelis should know better than to serve food in shoes. Their Arab neighbors would immediately see that as an insult since it's the dirtiest/lowest part of the body in Islamic tradition. Hence why a guy threw shoes at George W. Bush, it was never meant to really hurt or even hit the guy necessarily but to voice grave displeasure and make a statement.
I've never even set foot on Japanese soil and I think that's really weird. I can see how it'd be fairly disconcerting for a Japanese person to be expected to eat out of that when their culture treats shoes as unclean sort of objects.
Also, the fact that the Prime Minister of Japan is not objecting in public does not conclusively mean he is not offended -- another element of Japanese culture is the expectation of a strong degree of professional stoicism and dividing personal feelings from professional behaviour. A Japanese person may think you are the dumbest fucking shithead on the planet and he's humiliated to his core at being forced to work with you while you're visiting the Japanese offices of the multinational corporation you work for, but he will smile and treat you with the high standard of professional courtesy expected of him, and then after work when he goes to the bar with his officemates, he will get wasted and bitch about you to his also-shitfaced coworkers if you didn't also come along and wouldn't be witnessing his ranting. The next morning, it's all professional smiles and respect again and everyone pretends the drunken rants about you never happened.
It wouldn't surprise me if Abe was in fact bothered by the shoe dessert but hid his displeasure, as a way of maintaining face, and the diplomat who complained and is supposedly getting offended on his behalf is actually leaking Abe's privately-expressed feelings since he won't complain in public.
Every culture treats shoes as "unclean"... because they are usually dirty and smelly. This is a perfect example of the modern confusion between value and uniqueness. Many people in the artistic world seem to equate the two ideas so that anything that's unique must also have some sort of artistic value.
The reality of the situations it that it's a unique idea because most people aren't idiotic enough to put food in a shoe.
Thank god for these threads so I don't have to give these idiots any views on their stupid websites.
Moshe Segev is a fairly big name in Israel and apparently the go-to chef the Netanyahus like to use when entertaining heads of state.
He makes dumb looking deserts.
Here's the one he made for Trump:
https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2017/05/23/7799533/77995210991094640360no.jpg
I mean FFS.
I hope somebody is going to serve that Chef some bacon fried to ashes straight out of oven just to make sure he get the joke
now I'm imagining the scene from harry potter with the guy in the turban but instead it's trump, and he takes off the turban to reveal putin's face attached to the back of his head
It's Netanyahu's face though.
Also, should Trump have been offended by the implication him and Bibi are playing mind games on what doesn't even amount to a full chessboard?
Well I hope the chef foot the bill on this one
if someone served me this i would wonder if i was being fucked with
The shoes aren't real shoes, they look like a sculpture if you pay attention to the way the "leather" is wrinkling.
Also
The Times of Israel described an author and TV personality who’s close to the celebrity chef as saying the shoes were metal sculptures.
They were metal shoe-shaped plates, and they were served to all four attending the dinner: Netanyahu, Abe and both their wives, so if it was an insult it wasn't aimed specifically at Abe.
Also, it looks like it was part of the theme of the dinner, considering there was another course served on metal hands:
https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/05/F180502KBG01-640x400.jpg
Er, metal hands holding two ball-shaped objects. Yeah...
https://images1.calcalist.co.il/PicServer3/2018/05/07/815415/9_l.jpg
I think it was less an insult and just blunt cultural insensitivity. Now, whether it was ignorance or disregard, who knows, but the point remains that it's kind of unwise to serve food in shoe-shaped containers to Japanese people unless you really know them well and want to prank them or something.
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