https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/9/17333108/net-neutrality-congressional-review-act-cra-resolution-vote-senate
Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) and 32 other Democrats have submitted a new
discharge petition under the Congressional Review Act, setting the stage
for a full congressional vote to restore net neutrality. Because of the unique CRA process, the petition has the power to force a Senate vote on the resolution, which leaders say is expected next week.
maybe mccain will make the ultimate redemption arc and be the 51st vote for this too
B-but only Republicans are allowed to use the CRA to toss out Democrat changes! -Trump, right now, probably
If the Senate knows what's good for them, they'll go along with this. Otherwise, you have mostly Republican Senators, in a house the Republicans need to maintain control of in the mid-term elections, saying "yeah fuck net neutrality, more profit to the regional monopoly corporations". Even t_d and /pol/ have their breaking points and you just can't spin away "no, we're going to stay hands-off and let every Internet user get fucked".
Many Trump voters don't use the Internet, but one of the most important Trumpet voting bases, the youth vote, lives on the Internet and the REEEEEEEEE when the ISPs start turning the screws will be heard around the world (if you have the social media/YouTube access package for +$20/month).
http://www.cc.org/fast_facts_conservatives_net_neutrality
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/337477-free-market-meets-net-neutrality
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/11/the-conservative-case-for-net-neutrality/382650/
http://mashable.com/2017/12/14/net-neutrality-right-wing-media/#_Hq4Tzv1xiqD
Even conservatives should want NN
Please please please please, do something for the betterment of the country for once in your fucking lives.
That would imply that the Reps would listen to reason, facts, conscience or hell, even short term political preservation instinct,
instead of their ISP lobbying dollars.
<-- This conservative sure does, then I want to see Ajit Pai behind bars for his attempt to subvert the US telecom network
It isn't going to pass, but it will clearly show where everyone stands and become an important issue in the next election(s)
From what I've anecdotally observed online, Trump supporters think the appeal of soaking in the triggered libtard tears and REEE'ing on Reddit outweigh the costs of losing Net Neutrality so I wouldn't even bother trying to reason with them.
Or they think it has to do with "obamacare for the internet" and "dumb N's getting internet for fREEE"
Basically instead you have to present it to them as how cable companies will use their power to shut them down. I mean half the internet is already trying to cast them out, so it shouldn't be too hard to convince them that without Net Neutrality then telecoms will just try to cut them off completely. You'll have the strongest supporters Net Neutrality has ever seen.
I tried that but to no avail. I even tried explaining that - no, the internet wont "become cheaper because you can only 'buy' the sites you use" and how it doesn't work that way, but they didn't care, nor did they care too much about the potential for censorship, arbitrary throttling, money going straight to ISPs instead of the websites, etc.
I wonder, will NN end up being like a political whack-a-mole, depending on how the shitty political pendulum swings it either getting reinstated or repealed.
Even if it passes the Senate, it will then go to the House where it will be sent for consideration by the congressional waste disposal team
What I don't get is - Considering the persecution complex some far-right conservatives have, wouldn't you think that they'd be paranoid about the removal of Net Neutrality due to the potential for "liberal biased" ISPs to throttle conservative sites (and also sites like 4Chan)? It's bad when the government monitors your personal information and you prefer small government/non-intervention then, but somehow it's okay when the ISPs do so directly, with the incentive to interject bias through throttling sites and sell your private data that was previously protected?
What you need to realize is that the ISP cartel, and by extension the entire lobbying arm and its government puppets, want you to believe that Net Neutrality is a bad thing, and they've distorted the meaning of the word into something completely different that's scary because you've heard it used in scary contexts and not because you know what it actually means.
It's become a scare word among the Right, at least for people ignorant of what it actually is. It's like "socialism", it must be bad because everyone except those lefty idiots talks about it like it's bad. It's another example of how the GOP machine is exploiting ignorance and appeals to emotion to trick people into voting against their best interests.
I feel like we increasingly live in a world where people will tolerate blatant corruption if you don't even try to hide it.
To be fair, I can almost guarantee the IRS could singlehandedly abort the ISPs' course on NN. All they'd need to do is offer fuckhuge tax breaks for any ISP that does things that align with NN, with the tax break getting bigger the more 'neutral' that ISP treats traffic and pricing and such.
Except the big ISPs already got huge subsidies from the government that they were supposed to use to develop their infrastructure and roll out greater broadband access across the country. They took the money and chucked it in a Scrooge McDuck Vault instead of spending it and focused on taking over government lobbying instead of improving their service.
More like if you blame it on left-wingers and brown people
The best way I could think of to show a conservative friend why NN is a NEEDED thing is as follows.
He's conservative as fuck.
HATES MSNBC/CNN as a result, naturally.
Would prefer to read Breitbart and other hard-right "news" sites.
Now, let's say the only internet he can get access to is from Comcast.
Know who Comcast owns?
That's right. MSNBC.
So what would happen if, say, Comcast didn't want you to get your news from Breitbart, but from MSNBC instead?
Suddenly Breitbart starts running/loading like dog-shit on your connection, and you don't know why.
That seemed to at least partially convince him that NN was a good idea. But of course since NN was an Obama thing and Obama was the Devil's cling-on he still didn't like it, so :shrug:.
I don't know, that Obonger guys pretty evil, I hear he's a muslim that swallows the blood of infant children
That's if they care to read them at all.
Remember: These people have marketed NN as "The Obamacare of the Internet", and you know how much they looove Obamacare...
But I guess it makes sense that they'd call it that, because all it tries to do is guarantee fair and equal access to everyone and yet they want to shit all over it anyway.
Yet they think guns will stop attacks on democracy. Christ.
Remember: It's not oppression if they're oppressing people you don't like!
They'll do anything for a tax break. It's a fucked up system and I don't like giving them even more profits they didn't earn, but you've gotta piss with the cock you've got, and that'd be a startlingly effective way to get the big ISPs to do what they're supposed to do.
IRS doesn't fuck around. If they try to abuse it the IRS will ruin them. IRS and Postal Inspectors are two governmental bodies that even crime lords fear.
Funnily enough the IRS has been systematically underfunded so that it's unable to pursue all of the enforcement actions it would ideally like to apply. Billions of dollars in tax go uncollected every year simply because the IRS is understaffed to actually enforce the law.
You get one guess on which party is responsible for that.
When you have nice things its easy to forget about the outside world. Heres a conversation I had with one of my conservative friends that also voted Trump and a typically response you get from his voter base when I tried to educate him about this issue.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/229156/a046b18e-3c19-4029-a5c0-c43fa223a6cc/image.png
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