Why do I feel like this is going to end up like Final Fantasy Versus XIII, where it just keeps getting delayed until it just becomes something completely different
Are they still planning to make it episodic? Did my memory fail me?
So much for that "incredible" E3 2015 conference, eh boys? Watch this thing hit the PS5 instead.
2023 sounds about right if they're going for full content parity with the original. FF7 was insanely huge, with total gameplay averaging around 40 to 60 hours.
If waiting that long means not missing out on anything the original had to offer, I can be a very patient man.
Oh, well's THAT'S good news.
Holy fuck, they showed English dub gameplay like 2 years ago iirc. What's taking them so long?
Five years? Eight years, if you count from that first trailer? Square needs to figure out project management. Their games are consistently, hilariously stuck in development hell. FFXIII, FFXIV, FFXV, KH3, and now FF7HD. Get your shit together already. I can't remember the last game they made that wasn't years behind schedule, or cobbled together from scraps left over from a project that was (coughcoughffxiii-2cough)
For comparison, the original game took three years to develop, including a switch from SNES to PS1 and building their first 3D engine. Sure, modern assets take a lot more man-hours to make, but not that much more - modern editors are leaps and bounds above what was available in 1995, and artists have loads more experience working within them. They don't have to do any engine coding, they're using UE4. With an episodic structure, there's no reason why this game shouldn't have come out last year.
Like, I get "a late game is only late once; a bad game is bad forever", but this is getting ridiculous.
Are you kidding me? Sheesh. I hope it's just a very rough projected date and not to be taken as fact.
Either way, I think what fucking amazes me about this news is that Barkley 2 seems to have indirectly predicted this specific year of release for 7, since Barkley 2's trailer was parodying the first teaser for the 7 remake.
I have to wonder which game will come out first now.
well the original game was HUGE to be honest
Sounds about right. A lot has changed since FFVII Remake was announced.
Apparently, Cyberconnect2's original work on it was "useless" according to some of the developers on it, so much so that it made more sense for Squenix to start on it from scratch. That's essentially 2 years of work down the drain.
In those 2 years, Squenix's episodic model of release was shown to be both non successful in Hitman, and their tendency to cut a game down for later sequels was shown to be controversial in Mankind Divided. As such, it would also make sense for them to abandon the episodic model in general they had planned before and just go whole hog with the game and release it as a whole.
As for why it takes so long for Squenix to come out with games, they're fucking perfectionists really. Both the directors of FFXIV 2.0 and the last bit of FFXV saw the typical issues with the company and took action to just push all that nonsense aside and focused on making an actual game instead of just amazing visuals.
Regardless, it's going to take a long ass time for FFVII Remake. Not only do they have to essentially re-define what made FFVII great, they have to make it appeal to the millions upon millions of people who have already played FFVII and regard it as one of the best JRPGs of all time. Combine that with Squenix's development tendencies, and you have a game that's guaranteed to take a long time. I think the only game that could take even longer than this would be if Squenix was crazy enough to make a Chrono Trigger remake.
Why? Chrono Trigger isn't that huge of a game, and a remake of it would probably be a more conventional remake as opposed to an infinite budget action-RPG remake where they're trying to change the style completely.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ffvii-remake-false-information-being-reported-regarding-release-window-beware-they-were-joking.42417/
False information, it was a joke from an art panel.
it says a lot about how much they suck at making games that people aren't surprised that they nearly have to wait a decade. What is even going on over there? All i imagine is the toxic working culture results in them essentially sleeping and eating at the desk, never really being "in the zone" all just to send a status signal. The office-job cultural norms in Japan are absolutely contributing to making their economy a useless black hole.
there was a really good SMBC comic about this kind of statement. 10 coins to the first person to post it.
I suspect a lot of Peter Principle is in play. People get promoted into management positions based on seniority and being good writers/coders/artists, but they don't actually have the skills and/or inclination to lead. So people end up working aimlessly, churning out content that can't actually be put into a single game. It's how FF13 took forever to finish, but then they rather quickly made XIII-2 and XIII-LR out of the leftover assets. Or how XIV had to be quickly rebuilt as an actually fun game.
It doesn't help that allegedly from internalized leaks/rumors, they might just of tossed out everything CyberConnect 2 did and figured remaking the game from scratch was easier than refiguring what was there. So not only does the trailer from 2015 not reflect the game at all anymore, but the situation might be more complicated than the infamy of Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Next you'll tell me that Duke Nukem foreve was The game of both the 20th and 21st century because it was being developed in both. Overly long dev times ends up in the game being released in a lazy fart, rather than a huge bang. See The Last Guardian for further reference.
Like, it's nice that there's a comic that mocks the over-use of certain statements, but that doesn't make the same statement invalid in every goddamn instance it's used. This kind of rigid thinking is why we can't have nice things any more.
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I liked The Last Guardian
I thought it was worth the wait
I have it ready to go, i'm probably gonna like it too. Doesn't change the fact that they hyped people for it in 2008 and when it finally came out, all people talked about were a severely tired concept and a cancerous camera. People had gotten so used to the novelty of the game that when it came out, there was no novelty left and all its flaws were out in the open.
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