https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKwD-0lFe4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GxCm7Ih8Qc
I hadn't there was a new series. I think it's is fascinating how well Tom and Jerry has aged since the 40's and it's pretty evident that it contains much more character and effort compared to its newer version.
There's been many new series, and none of them has been near as good as the originals in any respect.
Unlike WB, Turner had no qualms ripping the originals to shreds in the editing room permanently.
Gonna be edgy and say the originals weren't that great, either. Like, even as a kid, there was only so many times I could see Tom run into something or get hit in the head.
5 finger friends showed producers parents will submit their children to cheep garbage
They should've done something with outlines on the characters and environment. It looks really weird without them
Keyframe interpolation was a mistake.
You know I don't even think the newer clips were really lacking in bad ideas.
It really just lacks the feel, I don't exactly know enough about animation to really elaborate on why I might feel this though, maybe it has to do with the impact of things.
Maybe if we kidnap the new animators and make them reanimate some old scenes in their style it'd become obvious what's wrong
Theres no sense of movement. For example in the first clip of the new T&J Jerry when in the Piano had 1 pose as he was flipping around. The original show had a better sense of animation.
you can achieve something very close to hand drawn animation in computers nowadays, it's more a choice to stay on model that's hurting the expression,
God damn I could go on a rant about how much I hate lazy Tween animation.
Like, there are shows that manage to pull off puppet tween animation (Rick & Morty for example), but so many TV animators that use tweens are constantly shortcutting and reusing poses to a ridiculous extent. e.g. when Jerry is bouncing on the keys, the pose of him sitting on the key, being launched up, and falling back down DON'T CHANGE THE POSE AT ALL. He just rotates in a way that makes it incredibly clear he's just a 2D graphic.
And they always animate on 1's for some reason. They think it looks smoother but all it does is make it EASIER to see the mistakes.
One of the reasons I like frame-by-frame animation is because of the imperfections every frame. It gives the illusion that the body parts are at a very slightly different angle each frame, giving the illusion of a 3D object.
Tween animation reuses body parts even more than Hannah Barbera. You can instantly see that it's 2D when the head is at the exact same angle to the camera every frame, even if he's doing something like RUNNING which should at least have SOME distortion.
Another thing I hate about tween animation is that so many poses that should be dynamic and actiony are incredibly stiff.
http://u.cubeupload.com/berniebud/stiffasmyCOCK.png
This happens because instead of drawing the pose from scratch, they just fit together all the premade assets they have into looking sort of like what they want.
Also, why did they choose to have the characters look exactly the same as the background? It's so disorientating and hard to look at. Characters shouldn't be constantly blending into the background
http://u.cubeupload.com/berniebud/tomcamoflauge.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-sLX5UZaxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UFsMMFjmVs
To be fair, you'll never top these scenes no matter how good you make a new version of the show.
God I fucking loved this show as a kid
I'm not even sure it comes down to incompetence. I think it more likely a matter of time and budget.
Studio's gravitate towards tween animation because you can make something rushed and cheap and still have it be presentable enough for parents to sit their kids down in front of it. Sure they could give their animators more time to produce something of a higher fidelity, but why would they - that's not what they want. It's poorly animated by design - at least that's what I'd wager.
They're probably good animators, they're just being fucked over by a company that doesn't give a shit about animation or quality. As long as it's "passable"
Kids these days don't know what they're missing. This is absolute garbage.
Fuck that Flash animation garbage. I fucking hate it when these "big" budget TV shows look like they're a series of tweened layers on CS3. It just looks fucking lazy. If I wanted Flash I would go on fucking Newgrounds. At least the creators over there have talent and passion.
I mean, it's not like the original episodes are hard to get at all. I have the whole thing lying around waiting for my daughter to get old enough to make sense of it.
I like that they kept toms weird scream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwj9n3QaC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3fyl1dX0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt9xfuiApn4
i'll never forget this episode
As recently as a few years ago CN still used to play old reruns of Tom & Jerry, so at least they can still see the originals.
i'll never forget the Three Mouseketeers episode where Tom gets fucking guillotined at the end for failing to guard the king's dinner
I can't forget the scene where Tom dies, gets to the pearly gates; then a tied wet sack passes him, and out jump 3 kittens.
I kind of hate when people put down flash just because of poor animation.
If in the right hands, flash is an absolutely amazing animation tool
https://vimeo.com/102103466
Hanna did them
Wakfu is probably the best example of flash you can give.
https://my.mixtape.moe/uatzvf.webm
it's sad to see how the series is being milked so much with shitty art and interpolation
Really? I mean yeah take any still frame and it looks really nice, but they're still relying way too much on tweening that the motions themselves look stiff, robotic and very clearly on a 2D plane.
Wasn't the old Tom and Jerry episodes made for the movies, and thus had more care put into it? My favorite thing about Tom and Jerry is the music sync. The entire episodes pacing is amplified through that amazing orchestra, it really made the slap stick setups give way more of a punch when Tom or Jerry ate shit. I feel like the new era Tom and Jerry totally missed that due to time/budget constraints.
I also feel like the slapstick back then was way more creative without being graphic, like getting hit with a steaming iron just made toms face look comically black and into the shape of the iron, not some graphic blistered face or whatever, or the the time they threw a bowling ball into Toms mouth and it goes all the way down to his tail and gets stuck there acting as an anchor. It looks to me the newer stuff misses out on those unique T&J moments where the artist can have fun with the characters. For example Tom going through a hose and turning into a long tube when he comes out the other side, its funny because it looks funny not because he hit the wall or got hit by X, but rather the punchline was more of how cartoonish the aftermath looks rather than the actual impact.
Despite all that was said, the old one is even able to make meme-worthy videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jy7nQEym74
What they call cartoons now is shit
https://youtu.be/uU31EFRAw2E
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