Based Elon eliminating the era of Fake News. Is there anything this man can't do?
This site sounds very shitty and dangerous, and if practically anyone other than Elon Musk proposed it, we'd point and laugh. Are we seriously, in 2018, in the post-Trump post-Brexit era, considering the idea that a public online ratings system is the best way to discern truth from falsehood?
This is an excellent idea that a) has already been done very well, and b) I don't trust Musk with at all.
I mean, everyone's pretty quick to trust snopes and mediabiasfactcheck so idk.
Buddy you're cool and all but you got shit on your shoes too, don't be mad people say they smell shit.
Is this the part where Elon Musk's downfall begins?
https://twitter.com/meharris/status/999372255237832704?s=19
I wish I had Elon's level of productivity.
How, He even calling out American Corporate media for what it is. Musk my man.
Doesn't this already exist in some form?
Many of the threads of SH and Politics contain small overviews (politifact?) of how the source typically reports (left or right leaning) and how often their material is factual, opinionated, or just straight up fake.
I uncertain about this idea because rating systems are easy to use to create hiveminds and encourage bias. I feel like we see that here where if someone doesn't go with the status quo they're inundated with boxes and disagrees and if they're popular they're supported with checks and stars. You're creating a reward system for going with the grain which isn't always the best way to encourage truth. A service like this has the possibility of showing writers and journalists what stories and narratives get the most clicks and retweets. Which in a post-truth world is dangerous.
Why on Earth would you name it Pravada?
The only reason I can think of is irony.
This is the same guy who named his subway project "The boring company" haha punssssssss
When did Wikipedia replace [citation needed] with ↕️?
I feel like we're mere months away from Elon Musk's dramatic heel turn where he becomes Bob Page and takes over the west coast of America
This is fine as long as the rating system requires evidence.
It's difficult, but doable, and frankly in this era we need something like that.
Snopes and Politifact are run by fact-checkers who do research and publish what they can find about the veracity of an article/story. That's quite different from Musk's idea of letting the public vote on whether a given journalist is a liar or not.
Mediabiasfactcheck is a decent resource, although it seems more opaque and less professional, and I'm never sure to what extent it might just be some guy in his bedroom running the site. But it seems to have its heart in the right place and it's good enough for getting a general idea about sources.
Tounge-in-cheek. Same with the weather site Weather Underground being named after the terrorist organization Weather Underground.
Can't help but to feel he's just farting into the wind with this idea.
This won't be good at detecting the truth-value of journalism, but it will be great at detecting popularity by finding which piece of journalism conforms to the worldviews of people rating it positively (be those worldviews based on a need for objectivity or a farce of such a need).
I feel like if it was an independent site that just created rating by verified hit and misses, it'd be useful. Like, I'm a fan of NPR, but they too can fuck things up, and even so, their score would be higher than say Fox News due to their fact checking policies.
My concern is that this thing is going to be brigaded out the ass by supporters of whatever politician, company, or brand sees a particular journalist as a threat.
If the Pravda score becomes actually relevant to journalists' careers, as Musk says he wants, my concern is that journalists will be discouraged from rocking the boat by publishing anything that might upset large political constituencies or fan circlejerks.
My concern is also that Musk's intention is very clearly to use this site as a way of fighting back against anti-Tesla stories. That doesn't suggest, to me, that he's coming at this with the noble goal of uncovering truth.
Jimmy Wales structured Wikipedia in a way that is designed to protect it against undue influence from special interests - i.e., he handed control of the site to a charity, and the site doesn't sell ads. If Musk takes some steps like that, and if the site turns out to be more deep than just the kind of upvote/downvote system that Musk's tweets seem to imply, maybe I will feel a bit more relaxed about this.
That last tweet is so fucking loaded, holy shit.
Where's the "No I don't trust you to do this well at all" option?
Oh boy. Elon Musk running into an area where he has zero expertise once again.
Seriously, what is with the current wave of people with moderate success letting it go their heads so bad they create a 'life style' horseshit before they even actually succeed.
Treat his workers fairly.
"Are diesel cars dangerous?"
"They most certainly are! They rape and kill women and children! Eletrics don't though."
This does admittedly have precedent. If you look at his Twitter, you'll regularly see him calling out shitty publications for making articles about things he never said or did. I wouldn't blame him for getting fed up with it, much less taking initiative to stop it.
I mean, to be fair, diesel vehicles kill far more people than electrics do. But yeah.
Not in a deranged homicidal manner though.
Shit stinks. It's like eating the greasiest bacon strip ever. You can feel the fat decaying the valves in your heart, except this is in your lungs.
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