• Spanish rapper condemned to 3 years for insulting the monarch escapes to belgium
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Court gave margin until Thursday for the rapper to enter prison accused of crimes of threats, insults to the Crown and glorification of terrorism for the content of his songs. The rapper Josep Miquel Arenas, Valtonyc, has left Spain to avoid being imprisoned. The mallorcan singer has left the island taking advantage of the fact that he still enjoyed freedom of movement, according to the Diario de Mallorca, TV3 and ElNacional.cat, ahead of Thursday's deadline to surrender to the National Audience. And enter prison. On him weighs a sentence of three and a half years in jail for the crimes of threats, insults to the Crown and glorification of terrorism for the content of his songs. In fact, Valtonyc himself tweeted on Wednesday that he was not willing to give up easily. "I'm not going to make it so easy, disobeying is legitimate and obligation to thisfascist state. Here no one surrenders, "said Josep Miquel Arenas in a message in which he warned that" tomorrow Spain will make a fool of itself once more ". For its part, the judicial authority has reported that it will issue a search and seizure order to all state security forces and bodies if the Mallorcan rapper does not enter prison voluntarily once the ten-day period given by the National Court on May 14. According to sources consulted, this would be the procedure of the judiciary in the event that the rapper did not enter prison. It should be remembered that on May 18, the rapper also claimed through social networks that he had "more than 20 airline tickets" in his name purchased by Twitter users with the aim of "trolling" the police. The supporters of the rapper responded in this way to the office sent to several airlines to preventively control the possibility of leaving the island, with any destination, between 15 and 24 May. His defense advanced at the time that the rapper would wait until the last day of the term for entry into prison. To avoid this, his lawyer, Juan Manuel Olarieta, announced the filing of a brief before the European Court of Human Rights. However, if Strasbourg does not resolve his request before Thursday, the rapper would have to go to prison and, to avoid it, he would have left Spain. http://www.lavanguardia.com/politica/20180523/443786022774/valtonyc-huido-espana-evitar-carcel.html
What a fucked thing to be charged for
So did Spain ever change after Franco or is this just a new Fascist trend?
Spain is extremely authoritarian. Just look at what happened in Catalonia.
No it didn't change. They just got out of 300 years of perpetual civil war and this government seems to be keeping the peace in a country soaked with blood so why change it.
"kill a fucking policeman tonight, go to a small village with police and kill one of them" "Don't ask what you can do to me, ask what you can do to yourselves, put a fucking bomb on the prosecutor at once" Yep, fascism at its finest. I've no clue why this guy would be prosecuted. And in such an authoritarian state that he was free to run away, too, instead of jailed. Or "taken for a walk" in the middle of nowhere.
It's very clear you don't know what happened, because the people in charge of the vote went through with it illegally.
Yeah I honestly don't see how that's worthy of three years in jail.
It being illegal doesn't stop Spain's reaction from being extremely over the top and authoritarian.
I don't know what else you expected from a country that passed a law that forces you to hold demonstrations a certain way or be arrested/fined (more or less roughly what the Ley organica de protección). I'm just stating what happened, you can feel however you want afterwards. I personally am glad I don't live there anymore, but if you thought this was the first time something like this happens you're wrong. Generally you don't hear about it because most people that lived fine under Franco, like my grandparents, don't give a fuck.
Since my translator plugin doesn't work with that website all i can get from this is that you're saying its alright to jail people for threats in music? Good bye half of all rap on the planet
Seems like as long as you don't threaten the monarchy, it's fine. It also seems that fascist ideology in this country goes by unnoticed, like we didn't just have a harsh dictatorship like 40 years ago.
In other words, an anti-sistemic person can encourage other likeminded people to attack police (which is a reasonable threat that has been happening, not some vague idea) and it's okay because it was music.
Holy shit, it's 1998 again. "Rap music is responsible for violence!" Music doesn't cause people to attack cops. People who are inclined to attack cops might prefer music about attacking cops, but I'm not going to go shoot a state trooper after banging some NWA.
I do know exactly what happened in Spain. I'm not saying that the vote should have been recognised, but beating people up trying to vote is fucked up, and if you support that, I don't see how I can convince you of Spain's authoritarian tendencies.
you say anti sistemic as if being against the system is something bad the only people that are against the system are the people in power in our country, our constitution is fine (except for auto-determination) and the general idea of most laws is good, the problem is that it's never enforced
Police regularily attack people too, and especially in Spain. Did you forget about the whole Catalan independence vote and the state repression following it already?
Being against the system isn't inherently bad, and it's not black or white. Of course there's different aspects everyone is against. It's the whole "let's kill civil guards", "Jorge Campos deserves a nuclear bomb", "be as scared as a policemen in Euskadi", encouraging literal terrorist groups to commit massacres or expressing your hope for bombings against political parties you dislike that doesn't sit well. BY THE WAY, since you conveniently missed it: he could've avoided being sentenced into prison IF he had paid Jorge Campos his indemnization for singing about bombing him, slashing his throat and ripping off his arteries. Not very nice things to say about someone, wouldn't you agree?
Pretty big difference between "fuck the police" and "go out right now and murder policeman"
I wouldve thought if you were going to pursue punishment for such a thing you would go for a fine instead
Yeah you do realize "Fuck The Police" had more than a couple threats of violence against the cops right? "And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath Of cops, dying in L.A" So, no, no difference.
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