I feel it's a bit disingenuous to omit the following information from the article..
None of the airmen was accused of using drugs on duty. Yet it’s another blow to the reputation of the Air Force’s nuclear missile corps, which is capable of unleashing hell in the form of Minuteman 3 intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs. The corps has struggled at times with misbehavior, mismanagement and low morale.
Although seen by some as a backwater of the U.S. military, the missile force has returned to the spotlight as former reality TV star Donald Trump has called for strengthening U.S. nuclear firepower and exchanged threats last year with North Korea. The administration’s nuclear strategy calls for hundreds of billions of dollars in new spending in coming decades.
The service members accused of involvement in the LSD ring were from the 90th Missile Wing, which operates one-third of the 400 Minuteman 3 missiles that stand “on alert” 24/7 in underground silos scattered across the northern Great Plains.
Documents obtained by the AP over the past two years through the Freedom of Information Act tell a sordid tale of off-duty use of LSD, cocaine and other drugs in 2015 and 2016 by airmen who were supposed to be held to strict behavioral standards because of their role in securing the weapons.
They weren't using LSD while they were working in the capacity of security troops at a US nuclear missile base. They were using LSD as regular people not at work. What's the big deal?
To be fair it would make for good television
A bunch of nuclear base troops who cause wild shenanigans and get stoned all the time in an almost 'always sunny' type of way
I'd personally weigh that it's still a big deal as LSD does have the potential to permanently rewire your way of thinking and can cause rapid personality and moral changes. These people should be as mentally stable as possible, and let me tell you, acid has the potential for so much instability of mind lasting well beyond the temporary effects.
Because they are "on call" most of the time after working hours. If something bad is going down they are supposed to report to for duty at a moments notice.
Anyways doing drugs isn't allowed while you are in service.
LSD doesn't have permanent effects unless you ingest an egregiously stupid amount or are already suffering from extreme psychiatric health problems. There's no experimental evidence that LSD causes personality changes, moral changes, or instability of the mind after the LSD has degraded or left your system.
We can only really talk about the effects of drugs as they normally manifest themselves.
LSD is a powerful drug but it isn't really like this. It doesn't really "permenantly rewire your way of thinking". It just changes it for a few days tops really. It gives you a new perspective, not a new personality.
...how? The memories and realizations you have while high will never go away, and those can have big effects.
[citation needed]
Uh
You can't remember most of what you go through while high on LSD.
where does one even get lsd anymore given the massive crackdown on the global supply chain?
doing drugs when you're an active duty security force though was a very very dumb idea though
so what I've gathered from your posts in this thread so far is that you've never done LSD. or really researched it.
Yes, even dumber than that, drugs and military work must never, EVER go together.
I've heard of stupid, bad shit happening because of this.
You mean all 1 posts? I guess i just thought LSD was useful for changing people's way of thinking, but i guess it does nothing unless you're already ill or take too much.
Story time?
That's also not what he said
It does stuff, and will change your perception, but you seem to be under the impression it can fuck you up for life, or radically change your mindset/personality. It can't, those are all myths.
LSD is a drug you should take seriously, because it can really mess with your perceptions of reality. However, it's a very intense experience, and like most intense drugs, your memory becomes very hazy, fuzzy, and unreliable. Because of this, once you have stopped tripping, some of the major personal revelations you might have had that maybe would be personality changing are
forgotten. Other ones are not, but due to the "distance" of the experience, they don't quite carry the same impact.
I've done LSD a lot, and it does change your perspective of the world, but it doesn't make you crazy, or a different person. It just changes your perceptions for a time, sometimes when you come back you keep a few of those changes.
yes and it looks like i was right lol. LSD makes you hallucinate slightly and it makes you really high and stimulated but that's about it. taking too much is what can cause minor temporary psychosis and usually that diminishes rapidly after sleeping or waiting. mental illness and psychedelic drugs do not mix well.
Back in like 60's-70's, my dad's brother "I'll call him Dadbro" was working for a defense contractor, he was helping install a small, missile defense site in southern Greece.
The site equipment would eventually be calibrated by launching training duds at a decommissioned freighter anchored in the harbor, it wouldn't sink it, it was just for targeting.
BUT... Dadbro and several of his co-worker buddies decided to hit some weed and they got high as shit.
So, they decided to preform the calibration firing themselves, and launched a LIVE ballistic missile at the training ship.
So, one huge explosion later, the ship sinks in the harbor and surrounding civilians are freaking out, thankfully, there were no casualties.
The launch site is swarmed by about 20 or 30 yelling soldiers and Greek MPs, all of whom are aiming their rifles straight at Dadbro and his friends, who came stumbling out like "wha, what's happenin' maaaan?". He and his buds get tackled and restrained by a bunch of pissed off officers and get thrown into lockup.
About a day later, he's approached by an official, and tells him he would free him if he "worked off his deb't" working for Raytheon contracting, Dadbro accepts.
So remember, don't get high on the job, you might end up letting loose with military hardware, sink a ship, and get dog-piled by a squad of enraged Greek cops.
I have serious concerns that none of you, especially those that have used the drug, have brought up flashbacks.
We don't understand the mechanism, but LSD can cause you to have hallucinations days or sometimes even years after taking the drug. It is thought, and this is reasonable given that other chemicals like estrogen do this, that it gets stored in fat cells.
On duty, off duty, on call are irrelevant with such an unpredictable drug.
This is 100% a myth. LSD flashbacks are not real, and are a hollywood figment of fiction. LSD is not stored in fat cells, marijuana cannabinoids are.
The closest thing to what you're attempting to describe is HPPD, an extremely rare condition with very little documentation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder
This isn't real AFAIK.
I've never met, heard of, or seen anyone go through this. Only internet boogieman stories that no one can trace back to the actual incident in question, so no, I don't believe so.
Post your sources that this would cause real harm please.
you mention that nobody who has used the drug has brought up flashbacks
could that potentially therefore be that "acid flashbacks" are a largely exaggerated thing and aren't actually a common side effect of taking the drug?
rather have the dudes in charge of the nukes dropping acid than getting drunk
If you want completely legit sources on the long lasting effects of LSD, I'm afraid they don't exist. That's part of why this is dangerous. I don't care how small a change, LSD is a very unknown substance that could do a number of things to the mental fortitude of a person. I personally think that people with that much fucking responsibility should not do anything that even has the chance to decrease their mental stability.
I have experience with this stuff I promise I'm not just on the whole bullshit media scary drugs thing.
the pressure one must feel to be in control of carrying out orders to destroy the world is so strong i can't blame people for looking for chemical coping.
I mean, the lack of research is true. Idiots are preventing us from that and its infuriating.
Only ever had memory lapses during the first couple trips, your memory gets better the more experienced you are. I can remember my trips fairly well but thats just my anecdote.
Unfortunately being in the military means you are on call 24/7. When you hold a position such as the ones listed in the article this is more true, it also doesn't help you have to have high security clearance to have this job to begin with. Regardless of what you opinions are on drugs, when you are a member of the armed forces you are held to much different standards. Their behavior is unacceptable and likely got punished for it. What makes the situation worse is some of the airmen involved are apart of the security forces squadron, which is ultimately responsible for the security of the base/nukes. You do not want people who are suppose to be a fighting force and defenders of the base doing drugs, regardless of the type.
I've been around military all my life and work on a military base. These airmen/soldiers fail to truly understand and realize that when you sign your life over to the military that is it...you are gov't property. The standards and rules which you have to abide by are much stricter, the punishments are more severe, and ultimately you can get away with little things here and there. But things that put into question your ability to work, question your character, or break some type of ethics, and overall just make command question your ability to preform will get you removed. Only a fucking idiot would do drugs or fuck up in a squadron which is already under scrutiny.
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