Italy's PM-designate Giuseppe Conte fails to form populist government - Polidicks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/27/italys-pm-designate-giuseppe-conte-fails-to-form-populist-government Second election?

Hope so. Fuck off with this right wing bullshit.

A populist government is the last thing we need, and tbh I don't want either Salvini or Di Maio to do Berlusconi's bidding

How to end up with an even more powerful right-wing side for the next election 101.

It'd be very lazy to describe M5S as right wing. They're far more complicated than that and have policies from broad parts of the spectrum. This in itself is a key part of their identity as a party that transcends typical boundaries, and rightly so given that such an analysis is incredibly oversimplistic.

Prove incompetence? Get more votes? do you live in bizzaro world?

Think about who you're responding too and the answer should be obvious

So much wrong ITT holy shit Lega and M5S, centre-right and chaotic neutral respectively, the two current majority parties, 3 months after elections had finally agreed on who to put up as PM. President Mattarella (PD, Left, currently one of the least popular parties) vetoed it because it did not align with their interests, causing a huge clusterfuck. So yeah, the left basically shot themself in the foot and the dick as hard as they possibly could. Should new elections be called, expext Lega and 5S to steamroll. They already had massive popular support, now PD confirmed themselves once again as backstabbing dicks. @XUZUL , Berlusconi is nothing more than a joke at this point. Thinking he has any sway on Salvini or especially Di Maio is laughable.

Did you even read the article. You've just had the president veto a new government with the reasoning of 'protect italian interests', any government can put a countries interests at risk, this is a political move by the president, thus back to the elections with those 2 parties getting even more of the vote.

come on dog, lega is centre-right now? just because salvini started wearing shirt and jacket instead of his completely embarassing sweatshirts doesn't mean that his ideas aren't as dangerous as before: his party was and will remain a far right one, full stop

Pretty moderate compared to FDI or Casapound, although that's not saying much... At least they're willing to compromise and cooperate with 5S, which is mostly center. Out of curiosity, which ideas of theirs do you consider dangerously far-right?

Willing to cooperate? Mattarella accepted everything but Conte, and they decided not to compromise Does it look like they're willing to cooperate? To me it seems they want to do whatever they want

Source? Last I checked, 5S was preeeeetty pissed at Mattarella too. And I did say cooperate with Di Maio, not with an unelected president appointed by an unelected government, that stands against what both majority parties stand for, and went "lmao nope" at the first real election we've had in a decade or so (because PD couldn't stop pulling fast ones to keep their asses on the throne, in case you were curious). It's not hard to see why either Salvini or Di Maio would be rather miffed right now.

Mattarella refused Savona (which is in his power, as it's been done many times before) but proposed Giorgetti, which was the next pick But no, Conte refused to compromise. It makes me believe they do not want to share power between the two of them And the average Italian can't understand the situation because we're adopting America's "Us VS Them" mentality, ready to forgo the UE just to spite it

Fair, most of the myriad news coming out today are partisan and contradictory. Bit easy to get lost. To be honest the situation is still a bit of a clusterfuck, and most folks are probably just simmering with rage against PD cause it sure felt like another "fuck you we're here to stay" move by them, again. Despite the middle finger they got last election.

Yeah because we learned so much from UK's last election right?

Most folks are starting to be anti-UE, because they can't see that we'd be in a situation much worse than Brexit We're one of the most ignorant societies in the Western world and, frankly, we deserve all this crap

Lega is in no way centre-right. For comparison, Merkel is centre-right according to European standards. Someone who calls for the mass cleaning of immigrants definitely isn't.

They did not want to form the government anyway, and used Mattarella as a scapegoat. They could have easily formed the government and basically neuter Mattarella's powers once they were elected. The next elections will be an informal referendum on the Euro. The populists are the cancer of this country, but the political class is to blame for this.