G'luck to ya, no-one in any political power wants to hear about it.
It must be frustrating to be a holocaust survivor who's gained this sort of influence only to see it be ruined by propaganda.
nice try. the person behind this post?
Soros
Some say George Soros has connections to the illusive Benjamin Ghazi.
Jewish man who witnessed the horrors of and after the holocaust wanting to fund a campaign that wants to override a vote that was driven by hysteria and racism.
Idk why the fuck people can't make that connect towards this. Even though its the bullshit "Liberal Conspiracy" horseshit, but still. Looking through this guy's life, it makes fucking sense that he wants Brexit to not happen. Cause he knows what exactly the support, or a good chunk of the support towards Brexit came from. And, he would rather not let that happen.
Brilliant, but yeah, I'm always reminded me this clip of John Oliver from when he was on the Daily Show when people complain about Soros. I've set it to start at 47 seconds, but no idea if that will work in the embedded link, so go there manually if necessary.
https://youtu.be/Ou1pomxPViU?t=47s
Rich billionaire trying to influence the democratic process of another country, yep nothing wrong with that at all /s
As long as it isn't the Russians.
Ugh you're one of those "will of the people !!!! direct democracy is best!!!" people aren't you.
Referendums are a shitty way of governing a country and have very little to do with democratic process when its a glorified talent contest that puts incredible important and complex decisions into the hands of an badly informed public.
I mean by all means let's team up and get money out of politics. I'm fine with giving Soros a drop kick if you're alright with doing the same for the Koch brothers, Rupert Murdock, Sinclair news, British petroleum, bank of america...
This is exactly the reason that we need more regulation of how the incredibly wealthy can use their money to influence politics!
I'm not saying it was a good idea, I think it was a terrible move, at the very least it should have required a 2/3 majority, but it's too late now to reverse the decision without causing even more problems.
All I'm saying is it's not acceptable for Soros or anyone else to be using their wealth and influence to manipulate the British people.
Hey guys George Soros here AMA!
ask me about my new world order
What is with this continuous lie that it's too late to reverse the decision? It's not at all, the real big problems still lie ahead of us. Better mitigate the damage now rather than after the X billion pounds we WILL need to repay the EU. Whilst I do agree that money should not be in politics, this is at least the least damaging way to do it. It's a campaign, rather than underhanded bargaining money the public aren't aware of. Hell, it's still not remotely as bad as the paid-for DUP votes.
Reversing it could very well be as bad as not reversing it, our reputation with the EU will never fully recover, also the backlash from yes voters could be severe as most of them will see it as being a violation of their democratic rights, regardless of how poorly the vote was carried out there was a clear winner.
Either way this country is going to be fucked for a long while with or without the EU.
Yeah...no
You're going to get way more fucked if you leave. Might as well man up and realized you fucked up, the EU will give you more respect for you guys if you at least realized ya done fucked up.
Yeah except here's the clincher - you deal with this sentiment before you hold a referendum, not after.
Nuh uh! No take-backsies!
Soros mentioned "convincing margin" in the article, so what are we saying like 58-60%. I'm not even sure that's possible, anything lower than that gives justification for another.
Best thing Britian could do is go 'ok look that referendum was a terrible idea and you lot can't decide if you're staying or going so we're just gonna cancel this whole shitshow before we shoot our society in the back of the head'.
there you go again with the "they'll just keep repeating the vote until they get the one they want" fallacy. Only people who seem to be doing anything like that are the conservatives who are uber desperate for their pro-brexit mandate, given the rumours of a 2nd snap election.
Even though one outcome is likely to turn out better for the country It's still a very difficult choice to make. It's a betrayal of half of your people either way it goes.
So... why not have enough referendum which will either, depending on where the majority from it stands, A) enforce a leave mandate that wasn't particularly well put in place by the first referendum or the crippling of the Tories snap election or B) show that there's a much higher demand to remain than before which establishes a mandate to drop brexit .
It's true that the original referendum technically didn't have such mandate, but that doesn't really matter in the eyes of those who voted. If you ask for the people's opinion and then don't heed to it, people will think you're evil, much worse than if you had never asked at all. But now you did, and now you're stuck with either A) appearing weak and without integrity to your supporters, losing their respect and basically committing political suicide, or B) potentially risk sending the economy down the shitter, which is easy to blame on somebody else if needed.
The "right" choice is obvious but I can personally understand it's an impossible one to make.
reversing it, things go back to the status quo with britain being seen as extremely euroskeptic, not reversing it, you've effectively isolated yourself from what is basically a superpower bloc of countries that will only put its interests ahead of your own.
I don't think things will be as bad as some people are imagining, yeah it will certainly be tough for the next 5-10 years but it isn't like the country will suddenly collapse.
To be honest I'm more concerned with the conservative cunts remaining in power.
your entire economy is integrated into the EU and its customs union, in the short term europe will not want a painful divorce either, long term you find yourselves left out of economic growth
5-10 years is a long fucking time for the current youth and young professionals of the country. In that time the economy is going to suffer severely, meaning we wont be able to make any of the savings or gain any of the footholds the older fucks who voted to leave already had.
It's going to lead to significant brain drain, as why the hell would a scientist want to stay in a country that has just objectively limited their ability to collaborate with other scientists with minimal pain? Why would a young professional want to try and set up a company in a declining economy when there's no guarantee as to what kind of trade tariffs are going to be in play?
Referenda should never be used to make decisions wholesale, the population are not educated enough on the topics we vote on most of the time, and in this case there was a lot of underhanded shit going on in the leave campaigns to twist things. The referendum should have been used as a jumping off point for parliamentary discussion and expert analysis, not a chance to shoot ourselves in the foot and then ignore any analysis done after the fact.
Man who made a huge chunk of his fortune fucking over Britain's economy in the early 90s says that it will be in the Brits best interests to listen to him.
About as trustworthy as making the Rotherham town council the heads of anti-grooming and anti-paedophilia campaigns.
Care to give a link about this instead of spewing bullshit?
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