As of Saturday, 81 people had signed the petition.
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Outrage is starting to sound like a typical buzzword.
Let's all focus on the actual problem at hand.
Is the burger is good? After that we can settle any problems about it's name later.
I'm outraged by this constant misuse of the word 'outrage'
[quote]She told local media she told the owner the term 'Ching Chong' is "very
offensive and derogatory to Asians and that the name wasn't appropriate
to be used". [/quote]
the owner is asian, fuck off
But the owner, John Wong, allegedly said the burger name was not
intended to offend, and the words were chosen because they mean
"authentic" or "original".
Even though he's right, the outrage is justified, I think. Using "ching chong" to make fun of Chinese people (or East Asians in general) dates back to the 1800s and is still used today.
I think he has more of right just because a bunch of white people are getting proxy offended. Can we just agree that in this climate people easily take shit too seriously?
Given the burger is based on his Malaysian background, I think a much better choice would have been the Malay translation of "original." An 'Asal Burger' sounds pretty good.
If I'm pronouncing that in my noggin right that almost sounds like "asshole burger".
Made from the finest ground rectums.
We wouldn't be reading about it if he had gone with it.
I actually ate at Johnny's a couple of weeks back. For anyone wondering the Ching Chong burger is delicious.
That or maybe the guy likes self-deprecating humor...
His actions lead others to believe that it's okay to use a racial slur because hey, that Chinese guy is okay with it so why are you getting so offended???
If it's okay because he's Asian, how do you factor in the fact that the woman who started the petition is Asian as well?
Concerned resident Lisa Chappell, who told the Canning Times she's an Australian-born Chinese, has started a change.org petition to remove the burger from menus.
Or does the race of those involved only matter if their opinion meshes with yours?
"Ching Chong" doesn't even mean anything in Mandarin, there's no phrase I know of that reads like that.
You know I don't get these kinds of articles. They're just absolutely hollow, divisionist bullshit typed up by people who probably had their editor walk in and start figuratively waving a gun around a few minutes before. Surely the function of a society is that, if you say something, it
should be judged by your peers and reacted to accordingly in a cordial way, like this? People disapprove, and so they've written up a petition to have it removed or renamed. It's not like they're storming the restaurant like Waco or anything, despite how the article's deceptive
framing might have you believe.
If someone says something that other people deem offensive, and those people cast a petition to influence the person to change their words (voluntarily might I add), then how is this any issue in the least? Society has functioned. We have avoided braining each other with rocks for another day. Reason has prevailed.
Okay. In that case it still doesn't matter because it's the name of a 'food item' and not something devised by an evil man to disparrage an entire race. It's like when Chris Rock uses the word 'nigger', now what. Is he going to completely stop using the word because people who are black take offense to that? C'mon let's be real here, it's a harmless situation. Where the racial slur was used in a harless context. It's a bad word, but it's not like he's actually racist. You don't HAVE to pandar to everyone's needs in every single situation, that's ludicrous. Minute and moot, this news is irelavant and pointless.
I'm not up to snuff on my mandarin but the owner says the name means "authentic".
The owner should change the name to another similar pronunciation to fuck with them, like zing zung
You know, having been in Australia for the extremely brief time I was there, a restaurant called 'Ching Chong' seems pretty tame by the standards of the country.
Here's the petition because it annoys me that they don't link it
Also interesting how businesses can get people to talk about them by perpetuating the "everyone is so offended these days" stuff
Funny you mention him.
Chris Rock does say that sometimes, but there's still a routine he stopped doing because he realized it was giving white people the idea that it was okay for them to say it.
Because there's a difference between a minority saying a slur against them themselves, and a minority getting everyone else to start using that slur.
Ignoring the fact that he's Malaysian and 'ching chong' is meant more towards Chinese people, an entirely separate ethnic group - even if he doesn't have any racist reasons behind it, he's still being irresponsible with it. Just because he doesn't think it's hurtful doesn't mean others don't think it is. Just because one person thinks "oh it's okay to have a slur burger" doesn't mean no one else is allowed to complain. Sure, it's his store and thus he has the right to name things whatever he wants, but everyone else has the right to say "can you please stop".
I personally wouldn't say it's worthy of being called an 'outrage', or even newsworthy, but it's still a little rude.
Think of it this way. If one person drops a rock on their own foot and says "that doesn't hurt at all, I'm fine with it", that doesn't mean it's okay to start dropping rocks on anyone's feet. Sure, a small rock isn't going to break any bones or cause lasting damage, but that doesn't mean it won't hurt anyone.
...That really doesn't work as an analogy to offensive things because offensive things are incredible subjective and debatable, whereas dropping rocks on people is inherently violent
I can guarantee you that the people who use ching chong as an insult don't know or don't care about the difference between chinese, vietnamese, japanese, etc.
In the link I was quoting it shows the Minnan branch pronouncing the word as " chiàⁿ-chong ."
Wong is a Cantonese surname so he was likely using the Cantonese pronunciation, which you can hear here. Romanizing that as 'ching chong' is really stretching it.
Lets create needless “outrage” and hatred for clicks! Woo modern media!
Yeah, to be fair I couldn't really find anything else on it and was just going by the link the guy posted. Seemed really dubious, but I've never been to Malaysia and I don't speak Minnan Mandarin so I couldn't know for myself.
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