If Canada were to invade and take control of our government and vast natural resources I wouldn't complain
So the system is working as intended, interesting to know they can do something well even if they can't do something right.
Well I mean it kind of would since companies would just be allowed in to pass the costs onto everyone else. What we need is to bust up those pseudo-monopolies which are allowed to charge whatever the fuck they want for essential services like healthcare/pharmaceuticals and cable/internet. Then we also need livable wages along with that.
Except multiple economist will tell you thats just not true and a scare tactic for the min wage that has been used forever. Cost and demand will eventually balance out prices, and producers will still have to compete pricing. Majority of the scare with price jumps is when the wage is shot up in one passing, allowing it to slowly increase on a schedule allows for planning and often leads to a increased price that is still lower than overall income.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Reaganomics is the single largest enduring scam ever inflicted on the American public.
You either Canada, or you can't.
Gotta wait for the bootstraps to trickle down so they can pull themselves up by them.
Don't you know, its 4294967296d riskopoly, really hes doing this to prepare for the complete autonomous take over of all industries with an unemployment rate of 90%
However, the data from the U.S. Census Bureau he cited covers only the period through 2016, and he gave no comparative figures on the extent of poverty before and after Trump came into office in January 2017.
So he wrote a report about the poor without using any current data and doesn't make any mention of how it actually compares to before Trump came into the presidency.
It's literally a nationwide Ponzi-scheme that half the nation actually believes in. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Yeah, Trump has done many great things to help the poor such as
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How does that change anything I said? The article in the OP is treating this "report" as if it's anything more than a dataless opinion piece when it isn't. It's an appeal to authority of the highest degree.
The report takes data from before Trump took office, and then extrapolates it to now to assert that the Trump administration is making the divide worse.
In that time, Trump or his administration has...
Let CHIP funding expire as a political bargaining chip
Encouraged work requirements for welfare recipients, including food stamps
Passed a massive tax cut that permanently benefits big businesses and temporarily throws a bone to the middle class
Removed the individual mandate from the ACA, which can only cause insurance premiums to rise for those that need it
Trump is executing policies aimed at crippling welfare and removing the safety nets that catch those at the bottom. That's not an opinion, it's an observed fact. Put your logical fallacy trading cards back in your pocket.
The claim being made isn't, "Trump has enacted policies that will lead to the poor being worse off." The claim is "America's poor becoming more destitute under Trump."
Note the difference between the two claims. If it was the former, then fine, he is welcome to argue how Trump's policies will likely hurt the poor, but it wasn't the former. If he wants to argue that the poor are actually, right now, becoming more destitute, then he needs to demonstrate that fact.
at this a nuke getting dropped on us would be a vast improvement.
more like trickle down
It baffles me to no end how this countries population actually supports it as well, considering the majority are christian.
I feel for Sgman in this topic because he's making a good point and everyone's just dismissing him or ignoring him.
I'm not sure it's a good point. He is correct, but he is also ignoring all sorts of welfare-cuts and contemporary proof that the taxcuts don't benefit the lower classes which is what the article is actually based upon. The article lacks hard data like he says, but it certainly isn't unfounded speculation either like he claims.
All he does ever is get anal over specific phrasing and meaning, as in this case.
In this case it's an article about supposed effects of the Trump administration that there's no actual evidence provided in said article for. Yes, Trump is favorite policies that in practice usually result in a poorer lower (and often middle) class. However, it's entirely possible that these policies have not had time to take effect yet, or that the amount of effects they've had so far have been outweighed by the recovering economy. The fact that the data he cited only goes up to 2016 shows that it is in fact speculation, which, even if it's speculation that has a high chance of being accurate, should have been noted in the article title instead of treated as fact.
Can you point where I said or insinuated that it was wild speculation? I said it was an opinion piece and that we shouldn't mistake it for a data driven report. That's not an insult. It's a recognition of what we're dealing with here.
This is a complex issue. It's not as simple as shitty economic theories like trickle down. A big part of the problem is other than farming there's not a whole lot to do and then you have idiots in some towns clamoring for the "small town feel" in positions of power who won't let anything but the essential businesses like wal-mart or Mcdonalds in.
I actually have a really good anecdotal story for this, so let me tell you the Midwest story of Fort Scott and Iowla. Fort Scott back in the 70's-90's decided that they'd build a large industrial park and incentivize businesses to come in, Iowla on the other hand was starting out as something of a fledgling suburbia and real estate town made to house all the people working in the once bustling Fort Scott.
Fort Scott's government leadership then changed. Now any attempt at manufacturing businesses taking parcels of the industrial park was denied due to a lack of city tax subsidies, the city government knew full well that any manufacturing business needs 2-5 years to payback its initial cost and weren't willing to give companies a tax break during that period as if to say "fuck you we don't want you here" so any potential suitors just said fuck it and went to the next best thing: Iowla.
Now all that's left of Fort Scott is a dying retirement town with rising unemployment, crime on the rise and damn good burgers the economy stagnated and flatlined. Meanwhile Iowla is growing slowly but surely because it didn't give a fuck about "small town values" and has a small cadre of manufacturing plants to help its still largely agricultural economic base.
Manufacturers would be more than happy to scoop up cheap ass land, put a factory or two down and help some trailer park trash turn into model U.S. citizens but they can only do that if you let them. I can't speak for the coastlines though.
I would, they'd skullfuck a lot of things that are perfectly fine in the process. Now, if they'd only bring over their nationalized healthcare and sensible approach to infratructure/foreign policy/worker's rights I'd welcome them with open arms.
and guess what? the democrats are still too cowardly/in the pockets of corporations to create a platform to help these people
Last I checked, they were trying.
conservatives have gotten really good at preventing the transfer of wealth downward
Sgman is accurate. The report is pretty stupid.
This doesn't mean the report isn't necessarily accurate, it just doesn't really have enough data to make that assessment.
Of course if you are fucking stupid enough to need an assessment from the UN that the poor will be doing poorly under a Republican administration, then I have some ocean front property in North Dakota to sell you.
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