U.S. urges China to come clean on Tiananmen anniversary - Polidicks

U.S. urges China to come clean on Tiananmen anniversary | Reuter.. BEIJING (Reuters) - The United States urges China to make a full public account of those killed, detained or who went missing during a crackdown on student-led pro-democracy protests in and around Beijing’s Tiananmen Square in 1989, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said. However, Hu Xijin, editor of nationalistic tabloid the Global Times, called Pompeo’s statement a “meaningless stunt” that “represents a wish of the Western world to meddle in China’s political process”. RIP China–United States relations

Yea fat chance. China chinese today are so conditioned that they think its actually an alright thing The thing about Chinese is that, certain sacrifices are seen as 'okay' in the name of 'prosperity' They all know about Tiananmen, they know they live in a police state, but they all think its totally alright to give up most freedom in the name of wealth, especially for the growing middle class. I've met some chinese nationals overseas, and what they told me is exactly this. So were my family in Hainan. Hell the massive famine caused by Mao Zedong is seen as a necessary evil.

Funnily enough a lot of Chinese, at least those who can afford it, hedge their bets by laying roots overseas. Investing in overseas property and companies, educating their children in overseas universities and getting permanent residence. They know one day the CCP could seize everything and they want a liferaft in case things go bad for them.

I thought they just don't know it ever happened thanks to extreme censorship and whitewashing, like a Texas history textbook but without the aid of the internet

Nah, it's more of a case of attitude than knowledge. Even many North Koreans know quite alot about the outside world, there's a big black market for movies and such where they see the differences between their own state and the rest of the world. People who live in heavily rural places will probably be clueless though, but that's given for most.

Its a way to cope with something they see as out of their power. The moment that they hit economic turmoil they'll turn on the communist party like rabid dogs, and that's exactly what the party knows and fears and why they've been cracking down HARD on political and economic corruption in the state, to prevent any bubbles from popping.

Most Chinese I've talked to either believe these kinds of stuffs (Tienanmen/Surveillance/Censorship) are a necessary evil or are just trying their best to leave Mainland China. They don't like talking about these stuffs either, rather ignore them as it's really out of their power to do anything. It's even more sad for me that more and more Hong Kong people seems to follow this trend as well.

I told this story in a Discord the other day but I'll repost it here. I go to a university in California that's very well-known for having an extremely large population of Chinese students, many of which were born there and are here through some kind of student visa. I'm taking a class on 20th century China right now, with a particular focus on the life of Mao Zedong. We got to the section on the Tiananmen Square Protests a few days ago, and the whole lecture got super derailed because a group of Chinese students began arguing with the professor that the Massacre never happened at all (although a couple of them said that it did happen, but it was totally justified.) I found it to be a super surreal experience. I wonder what it's like to have your whole education happen in China, then come to America for college and be exposed to uncensored media.

I heard in NK, they believe Kim Jong Un didnt need to poop