Trump Attacks German Refugee Policy, says US must avoid EU's immigration issues - Polidicks

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/us/politics/trump-immigration-germany-merkel.html WASHINGTON — President Trump warned on Monday that the United States must avoid the immigration problems facing Europe and he attacked the policies of Germany, one of America’s closest allies. In a series of Twitter posts, Mr. Trump falsely claimed that crime in Germany is on the rise, and railed against immigration policies in Europe, even as his own policies at home face bipartisan criticism about the separation of children from parents when they are stopped at American borders. Germany’s government is on precarious political footing as disputes grow about Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open-door refugee policy for those seeking asylum. On Sunday, leaders in Mr. Trump’s own party and Democrats called for the end of the president’s practice of separating children from their parents when families arrive at American borders seeking entry. The Trump administration has separated at least 2,000 children from their parents in the last six weeks. The White House has falsely said it is just enforcing the immigration law, when in fact, there is no such law. And he again blamed Democrats for border security problems. Mr. Trump said in a tweet, “CHANGE THE LAWS!” While Mr. Trump’s assessment of Germany’s crime problems is not accurate — as crime numbers in the country are the lowest since 1992, according to the most recent German data available — the brutal murder of a 14-year-old German girl has fueled Ms. Merkel’s opponents who are against the country’s migration policies that provide entry to some 10,000 asylum seekers each month. The sheer gall.

He just promised to veto a bill his own party on Congress was going to vote on lol.

Not like we should expect anything else from him. He'll attack anyone and anything to distract from his own shortcomings.

The bill probably doesn't include his precious wall so he doesn't want it.

The fact that Trump is upset by it is a very strong argument in favor of Germany's refugee policy.

You say that but if I'm not mistaken, he's been threatening a shutdown again if the wall doesn't get funded.

Well, of course. Holding children hostage, sobbing in chain link pens, apparently wasn't enough to get his wall funded so he needs to show 'even more tough love'.

Mr. Trump said in a tweet, “CHANGE THE LAWS!”

He's so fixated on his god-damned wall that Mexico is somehow gonna pay for (they're not) that I doubt he'll propose anything sensible.

It actually guaranteed wall funding for as long as DACA recipients remained legal.

Yes, but the problem is he wants a win. That win will be delivered in the form of the Democrats standing up and 'respecting their goddamn King' by shutting up and doing his bidding - or he'll continue to torture kids and blame them for it. The man may not be a comic book villain, but he's really stretching to become one.

how fucking stupid does trump think everyone is? who is falling for the "its the democrats who are stopping us from fixing the immigration laws" (apart from his supporters). even republicans should be able to see that hes holding immigrants hostage to get his way.

As bad as germanys refugee policy is, I think trump sucessully achieved a task of devising an even worse one

I don't really know how good or bad Germany's immigration policy is, but surely it's not so bad they're ripping children from their parents and sticking them in what is essentially child concentration camps

There's actually already a growing fissure within the gop because of this. I guess they're all evil chickenshits, but some of them less so.

The main problem with the immigration policy in Germany, and by extension the EU, is the distribution of asylum seekers. There's currently a fissure growing between the CSU and CDU, which make up a large portion of Germany's ruling coalition. The CSU wants the Dublin regulation to be enforced, which would lessen the burden on Germany, but increase the burden on countries at the border of the EU (like Italy and Greece). If Germany does this, it could mean that other EU states are less likely to follow an open borders policy (which is why the CDU and Merkel are against it). On the other hand, if they keep their current policy, it could mean that far-right parties, such as the AfD further grow in strength. (which is why the CSU wants to have this regulation be enforced) It's a political mess, but far removed from the human rights violations the US is actively engaging in.

What he's doing is fucked and I think a lot of the GOP are beginning to think that instead of getting in bed with a narcissistic fool, they've got into bed with a psychopath.

I saw some stats that only 27-28% of the country supports Trump's crazy family-separation policy, and last year and into this year a reasonably sizable portion of the Republican voter base has in fact been quietly supportive of DACA recipients staying in the country and DACA not being killed/being reinstated after being killed by the President. This adds up to a sizable minority of Republicans who won't toe the party line on immigration and believe that it should be maintained, if adjusted, but not cockblocked and treated like a security threat. Republicans who actually manage and own businesses, especially larger ones, understand just how important immigrants are to a healthy workforce, and they have at least notionally supported modest reforms to make immigration work better while still maintaining control over the border but have been generally unable to get reforms past the hardliner/obstructionist party backbone. It's unfortunate for those "traditional" establishment Republicans -- and for the uncountable number of immigrants, asylum seekers, refugees, and DACA kids who will get to see or already have seen their legal, constitutional, and fundamental human rights violated -- that they have to share Party space with a bigoted nativist nationalist reactionary fuckjob movement who don't understand anything except they're a victim of globalism (even if they can't define the term), they're mad as hell, and they think everything will get back on track if they keep/force out non-whites, non-Christians, and optimistically Democrats from the country. The moderate Republicans who just want less government bureaucracy and business-friendly taxation are chained to a screaming matryoshka doll of deplorables armed with tiki torches and memes, and at the same time moderate Republican politicians are retiring or being forced out for not falling in line behind the War Cheeto. The black humour here is that Trump is the least ideologically-pure Republican in the history of US politics, and yet party purity is now based on fealty to him. Rebelling Republicans nearly triggered a Queen of the Hill vote on House immigration bills, which would've likely had the Democrats' bill, a bill Trump would immediately veto, winning. And they still can, but they chose not to in order to give Paul Ryan and Republican leadership one more chance to come up with a Republican-written immigration bill that satisfies everyone. And then Trump opened his fat mouth and said he would veto the more moderate proposal; White House officials later came out to clarify to a very confused media (and House Republicans) that Trump would consider both Republican proposals. The actual fact is that there is no bill that can pass the Senate and also not get vetoed by Trump; the kind of bill Trump wants to sign could never pass the current Senate. And Trump renewed his threat to shut down the government in September in order to get his border wall -- he thinks this would put pressure on Democrats to cave in and let Republicans do what they want, but I think it'll backfire and create the opportunity remind Americans, especially independents who could go either way, that a Republican President with Republican control of both houses of Congress is shutting down the government to get his way again and Republicans aren't keeping him in check. Just before the midterms.