Star Trek Megathread v3 - Discovery Makes Our Threat Ganglia Go Crazy
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The Television Series
Star Trek: The Original Series
The classic adventures of Captain Kirk and the crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise. The series ran for three seasons and spawned an enduring 50-year franchise.
Star Trek: The Animated Series
Continuing where the live-action series left off, the animated series continued the adventures of the original crew. The series won the Emmy for Outstanding Children's Series in its second season.
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Following the popularity of the Star Trek film series in the 1980s, Paramount greenlit a sequel to the original series. Taking place 100 years beyond Kirk's time, The Next Generation ran for seven seasons to critical and commercial success.
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
The first concurrent Star Trek spin-off, Deep Space Nine flipped the Trek formula on its head with its focus on set of characters living on a space station. The series is often cited for being one of the earlier examples of serialized television.
Star Trek: Voyager
In the successor to Star Trek: The Next Generation, the U.S.S. Voyager is hurtled 70,000 light years home, and must embark on a harrowing trek back to earth.
Star Trek: Enterprise
The first prequel series in the franchise. After an uneven start, the series failed to find an audience, and after four seasons was canceled, marking an end to an 18 year run of Star Trek series on the television.
Star Trek: Discovery
The first new Star Trek series in 12 years, Discovery follows the adventures of Michael Burnham as she deals with the repercussions of starting an interstellar war.
The Movies
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
After years of trying to bring Star Trek back, Gene Roddenberry and Paramount ended up with a grandiose, high-concept motion picture. While not the critical or commercial success Paramount desired, it made enough in the box office to justify a cheaper sequel to maximize return on the ballooned costs of The Motion Picture.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Developed by Paramount's television department, the creative team of Harve Bennett, Nicholas Meyer, and Robert Sallin worked together to create arguably the best film in the franchise. Acting heavyweight Ricardo Montalban reprised his character from the original series, altogether creating a formula that the film series continues to emulate to present day.
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Leonard Nimoy's debut as director for the franchise, Kirk and company must return to the planet Genesis to retrieve Spock's body for an ancient Vulcan ritual.
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
The now reunited crew of the Enterprise returns home to face the consequences of the actions in the prior film, but first must take a detour to 1980s San Francisco to retrieve Humpback whales in order to save the future.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
William Shatner takes to the Director and writer's chair with disastrous results in what almost killed the film series outright. What does God need with a starship, anyway?
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Director Nicholas Meyer returns to deliver the original cast's farewell adventure. KIrk and McCoy are framed for the assassination of the Klingon chancellor and must prove their innocence and uncover a conspiracy that may involve both sides.
Star Trek Generations
Captain Kirk passes the torch to Captain Picard as the cast of The Next Generation take the reigns of the film franchise.
Star Trek: First Contact
The Next Generation crew's crowning success in their time on the Silver Screen. A Borg attack on Earth is thwarted, but the crew of the Enterprise must following their retreating enemy into the past to prevent them from unraveling everything they hold dear.
Star Trek: Insurrection
Captain Picard uncovers a Federation conspiracy to forcibly relocate a group of peaceful aliens from their home, and turns his back on duty to defend his principles.
Star Trek Nemesis
In the curtain call for the Next Generation crew, the Enterprise is summoned to the Romulan homeworld where they encounter a clone of Captain Picard with a hidden agenda.
Star Trek
Seven years after the commercial failure of Star Trek Nemesis, a new vision of the future arrives from director J.J. Abrams. Set just before the events of the original series, a young James T. Kirk must stop the vengeful Nero from destroying the heart of the Federation.
Star Trek Into Darkness
The Enterprise is recalled to Earth to investigate terrorist attacks orchestrated by Commander John Harrison, but everything is not nearly as simple as it might appear.
Star Trek Beyond
In the 50th anniversary entry of the franchise, the crew of the Enterprise become stranded on a hostile planet, and must face their own demons as well as stop an alien armada from annihilating a heavily populated space station.
just saw the motion picture for the first time and god damn what were they thinking?
At first I thought they wanted to give the first act some breathing room and let the original movie theater audience reacquaint themselves with the star trek world since this is the first time they would have seen the ship and crew in 10 years.
but god damn do the long takes never fucking stop, this could have easily been a one hour long episode. TNG 2-parters have more things going on than this movie.
Motion Picture at least had some nice visuals to look at. Star Trek V had absolutely nothing good going for it besides seeing how little Leonard Nimoy cared about the film and barely put any effort in.
V can be fun because of how utterly bad it is, the slow moving picture is just boring
Deep Space 9 is nigh consistently the best series of them all. Fite me.
You absolutely should watch it in sequential order as hot damn does the series pick up and have some of the best writing and character arcs. (Season 1 is admittedly mostly a slog, but past that its decent to amazing).
Some of my top favorite episodes:
In A Pale Moonlight
Rejoined
Far Beyond The Stars
The Wire
The Visitor
Little Green Men
Our Man Bashir
Hard Time
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The execs wanted the movie to be the second coming of 2001: A Space Odyssey. Gene Roddenberry and Robert Wise probably wanted your mind racing, thinking about how all the technology you're seeing is possible and what kind of society built a ship like that, but it doesn't work.
The drydock sequence is gratuitous, but there's nothing else quite like it in cinema. I actually find The Motion Picture to be more rewatchable than the other films occasionally, since you can only watch a story be retold so many times, but with Motion Picture there's just so much thought put into the production design than you can study it uncounted times. Wrath of Khan, though, cut drydock down probably to where it realistically needed to be.
Also the script was intended to be an 90-minute pilot for Star Trek: Phase II and was rewritten into what we have now. The production of the movie is a fascinating mess to read about.
The wording is weird there, it sounds like there is additional Star Trek content beyond Discovery on the way, in addition to Kurtzman's production company making other products for CBS.
I can only hope this means Trek broadens to include more canon/old-style focused Trek and family-friendly adventures.
It is curious how the money is going to work for all this given reports that Discovery routinely ballooned past its budget, though that isn't an oddity to the franchise.
Nicholas Meyer did confirm last month that he was working on his own Star Trek project, but it was on hold because of the merger talks between Viacom and CBS.
Rumours state it is related to Khan some how, though I hope not.
Is that Tarantino thing still happening?
The next Star Trek movie is going to be a Kelvin timeline movie directed by S.J. Clarkson.
Tarantino's Star Trek project is still in the early planning stages and may not take place in the Kelvin timeline, though a recent remark from Zachary Quinto may mean that it will.
Paramount did announce they were working on 2 films.
I ran across this cool concept for a TOS Admiral's uniform. The actor looks familiar too, was he an admiral in Continues or New Voyages?
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If anyone wants to listen to the soundtrack for STO Victory Is Life, it's great, honestly I could imagine each track in the show itself.
Ambient 1 I think sounds the most like DS9 music.
Definitely the most show reminiscent tracks the game has ever had. The music shares motifs to be sure, if not outright sharing bits of show tracks in medley form.
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Seeing the state of televised space opera evolve over the years is fascinating.
Do all the series' themes get fucked with half-way through the show? DS9's is excellent, then they made it completely disjointed (Yes yes I get that it's meant to thematically reflect the greater importance of the station, but musically it sounds awful and out of time with its self imo). Enterprise's, which already seems to be regarded as the worst. was made to be monotonous and even *more* generic country just as it had grown on me.
I like both of DS9 and ENTs themes.
But I'm weird.
Trek themes worsening over time does seem to be a recurring pattern. TOS adding vocals, DS9’s latter theme, Enterprise’s. They all suffer from the same root problem of trying to making the themes more pop-friendly. TNG is the only series where the theme improved over time. Season 1 sounds rather small compared to the Season 3 - 7 theme, and I really don’t care for the Season 2 version.
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It's interesting how Gamma Rising has such show-like music. I bet this stems from TNG and Voyager having music rooted in themes by Jerry Goldsmith. Which means the only other Berman-era series where music is cheap to source from would be Enterprise, and we already have really good models for the NX-class and her Doug Drexler refit. 🤔. Though I supposed we already covered the Sphere Builders, Suliban, And Xindi.
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I hope Discovery’s theme and title sequence get a good refitting for Season 2. The middle of DSC’s theme is pretty bland, it wouldn’t hurt to chop it out. The visuals really need to become bolder and push hard past their Westworld inspirations.
Discovery is in Hall H this year at Comic-con (July 20th), that's one of the big main areas, a step up from the room they had last year.
more info here:
DISCOVERY Returns to San Diego Comic Con on July 20 | TrekCore B..
Imagine if Picard yelled like that all the time.
I mean thankfully it only happens on rare occasions.
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I wonder if they focused on the Ent-D on a purpose on that shot.
chad sisko vs virgin picard
http://www.startrek.com/article/discovery-set-to-rock-sdcc
All weekend long, CBS will offer free “intergalactic” rides throughout San Diego’s Gaslamp District in pedicabs inspired by the design of the U.S.S. Discovery’s Captain’s Chair. The pedicabs will feature the chair’s distinctive stitched black seats as well as video monitors built into its armrests, which will screen trailers for the highly anticipated second season. As an added touch, each vehicle will display an illuminated U.S.S. Discovery delta shield on the back.
Now that's interesting. We might be getting trailers at SDCC.
The first images of Discovery season 2 are here. One showing Burnham on the Enterprise, and another of a new Saurian character. There are more in the newest Entertainment Weekly, I need to find a copy...
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I love all the red on the Enterprise. I really hope Discovery gets a makeover like that.
I wonder if Linus is just a nickname, seems too.. Human.
Maybe it's like how Spock is short for something humans can't pronounce.
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