• Trump reverses course, signs order ending family separations on southern border
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/gop-leaders-voice-hope-that-bill-addressing-family-separations-will-pass-thursday/2018/06/20/cc79db9a-7480-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html?utm_term=.2c32428a2004
Dat backpedal
THANK U PRESIDENT TRUMP 4 ENDING THIS EVIL OBONGO-ERA RULE!!!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA
"I never ended this policy, we never even had a policy of separating families" Bet if he said that T_D would eat it up. It's honestly scary Also btw what about all those kids who wee separated by now?
the wheels of justice will now creak forward as you cannot detain kids for more than 20 days due to a federal ruling in the 90s. this policy was a direct result of his insistence to refer everybody crossing the border to criminal prosecution, instead of civil, and so he had to separate families otherwise by law he has only 20 days to detain them. in fact they'll probably see lawsuits immediately since there are thousands of children and parents who have been separated already lovely thing how our smashed up immigration system is convoluted and barely works since white nationalists have prevented any compromise since ww2
You don't accidentally do this lmao
Well you know, one day you're trying to secure your borders then the next you wake up and realize you were just accidentally trying to genocide children instead.
Sorry Donnie, stopping something you ok'ed in the first place doesn't make you a hero, at least in my eyes. I mean, the fact that they are stopping with separating families at the border is great and all. It's just that A: I can't help but feel that he signed this to look like a hero, especially with all the things popping up claiming Obama and Clinton were responsible for the separations in the first place. B: Threats to revoke this are now part of his tantrum arsenal.
The damage done by the separation policy better haunt him for a loooong time
Considering how things have gone, most Americans will forget by next week
C. This only solves PART of the problem. Ripping children away from their parents was horrifying and barbaric. Ending that shit immediately was critical. However, his "solution" here now involves INDEFINITELY detaining entire families, in clear violation of established law AND basic constitutional rights.
Is Ellis Island even active as anything beyond a tourist trap these days? What's really funny is the strong superpower riding high in a golden age that people often wish for was created on the backs of millions of immigrants coming here to start anew all over again. Immigration is literally what built this country, and we should be encouraging peiople to come here, not chasing them away with draconian entrance procedures and barbaric, tortuous detainment policies.
If there's one constant in our melting pot of shifting views and morals, its that immigrants have always been trying to shut the door on immigrants. The british immigrants tried to keep out the germans, the germans in turn tried to keep out the irish, the western europeans tried to keep out the eastern europeans, and now the europeans are trying to keep out the non-europeans, yet we never seem to learn from this.
Actually this isn't even a solution at all. It just delays it for 20 days before this shit starts happening again. The Flores ruling makes it so the kids can't be held in jail for longer than 20 days and after that? it's back to the concentration camps for them. Trump only did this in a shitty attempt to shift the blame away from him in 3 weeks time when this EO is no longer legal to enforce.
Also it doesn't bring existing separations to an end, those are still going on.
Today the BBC covered Trump’s executive order. The story they ran mentioned how “indefinite detention, long criticized, now seems like the preferable alternative.” This is what driving the Overton window to the right looks like.
Yesterday I pulled out my copy of a book written in the 30s about the economics of Nazi Germany I picked up at a flea market a few years ago. the auhor, completely ignorant of the final solution, wrote at length about how the legal and judicial system as well as the executive branch coordinated to dramatically reduce jewish people to non citizen, entities. It wasn't one order, it was a long series of spiraling laws, judicial verdicts and administrative policies that stripped them of their property, forced them into the ghettos and deprived them of any human rights it rings entirely too familiar today, though the author was at a loss about why they were going to such lengths, even arguing the courts had wrongly interpreted the racial purity laws and were overstepping their boundries
He shouldn't get praised for doing this, it was probably the goal the entire time. Miller proposes the idea. Sessions enacts the policy. Trump says it's terrible and blames democrats multiple multiple times right in our faces. Now 'stops' it so he can look like the good guy and get them atta boy points for his side Go fuck yourself you transparent fuck
whos the author?
probably this is the overton window in action https://youtu.be/_v-hzc6blGI
Thank you, I was actually completely unaware of that. /\
I wish the UN would show some backbone and intervene... But everyone of these international organizations meant to create a common ethical baseline of laws we established last century have just all been compromised or neutered.
Trying to shift the Overton window back left is a hard fight when it's this far right. Which is why people are really pushing that people vote for the Democrats, even if they're not left wing, they're less right wing than the Republicans and as a result can help shift society back to some semblance of normalcy again.
Girl I went to high school with pointed something out on FB; This is basically what Syndrome from The Incredibles did. A total dick with a ton of money Caused a huge problem Solved it making everyone think they're the hero Now we just need to wait for the actual heroes to show up and curbstomp him
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