• Japanese worker punished for starting lunch three minutes early
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/21/japanese-worker-punished-for-starting-lunch-three-minutes-early
Is this some kind of bad joke? He left a few minutes early, isn't like he didn't show up to work at all. Fucking hell, reset your priorities, don't you think this hypocritical public "apology" hasn't done enough damage as it is?
What a shitty way to live.
This shit sounds like something Konami would do.
This is like the extreme end of Japanese politeness
welcome to japanese work ethics
Chris Broad from Abroad in Japan talked about this a bit on his podcast and it's pretty ridiculous https://www.acast.com/abroadinjapan/abroadinjapan-sixthingswedchangeaboutjapan- From 6:23 to "Attitude towards work is just ridiculous. [...] When I was at my job as a teacher, I finished at work at 4:30, but if I was there until 5:30 or 6, all the staff would come over and sort of congratulate me for being the best worker in the world. And there's this idea in Japan that by doing overtime, just by being at work, by being present, you're doing your job, even if you're just sitting there like reading a book or doing anything related to your job. The idea that you're present at work is a really big thing. I think it's the idea that you can be called upon, if something happens you're there, right? It's silly, it lowers productivity massively, and you get a situation where a lot of workers are too afraid to go home, because if they're looking for a promotion, they wanna look good to their supervisor, so they stay at work, doing nothing. Just sat at their desk. And they'll get promoted for doing that."
To my knowledge, it seems to largely apply for only Japanese. Foreign expats rarely gets affected or adapt to Japanese work culture.
is this a wising wasabi article
[...]  was fined and reprimanded after he was found to have left his desk just three minutes before the start of his designated lunch break on 26 occasions over a seven-month period. Give him the death penalty!
Oh fuck, I unironically believed that that was true back in HS.
I'm a graduate student at FSU and I am pretty sure it is a rule here??? Who knows...
Fucking Christ. My manager rewarded my leaving early from work cause I would get everything done ahead of time by just shifting my hours back that hour so I could still get my full hours. I could never imagine staying past my allotted time just reading books.
Can confirm that Japanese work environments are weird. I worked for a Japanese company once and I've seen people just straight up sleep during office hours with an eye mask and neck pillow on, and nobody even reacts
Sleeping at work means you've been working hard previously! Keep working hard and stay at work instead of getting a proper rest on your bed!
Man, I'd be crazy good at work in japan, just bring in a reclining chair and a sleeping bag, I'd be the CEO of a major corporation in no time.
My work gives the tenured employees the option to cut out early at lunch if it looks like an early night, I wonder what they'd think of that.
That's Crazy, the place I work at is practically flexi-time. I might turn up 15 minutes late, leave 1/2 hour early and have my lunch break half an hour late. As long as you do the work, who cares? That said, if you need to cross the country at 7PM to give urgent support to a customer. You're gonna do it.
That's why I would never live in an East Asian country. I've been to Japan and it's a really beautiful country, especially outside the largest cities, but that's the thing: it's a beautiful country to visit, not one to live and work in.
I just took a nap, and when I woke up I had my own office on the 32nd floor!
Didn't I read somewhere that if you are balls enough to nap during work it can only mean that you are exhausted from all the hard work? Or is it a culture thing
That ain't thing in America, I tell you what. You can nap when you're dead.
I have yet to hear of an employer that won't fire you for sleeping on the job.
There was a dude where I used to work that would nap all the time, he had a big comfy chair in a corner and no one cared. Eventually he quit because the company got bought out by a big american corporation, he was probably scared that he'd actually have to start working.
American companies will go so far as to tell you that calling in sick is weakness. We have a severe lack of worker rights over here. I once sprained my ankle at work, and my former HR rep wonder why I didn't stay at work after getting out if the hopistal. That company could have killed me, and they wouldn't have bat an eye, or faced any sort of real consequence.
At the same time I would rather work in the US than in Japan. No questions. LIke, on a scale of places that'd be great to work its EU>Canada>US>THE ENTIRETY OF SOUTHEAST ASIA
This does not coincide with the work ethic all of their cartoons lead me to believe.
I can confirm this. Last summer, I worked as a contractor with a Japanese company at the good ol' Tesla Gigafactory since I needed a job during my time away from school. My boss promise me a "part-time" position, but the only problem was I had to work 66 hours/week (weirdly enough, my Japanese coworkers only worked 55 hours). Of course, I wasn't able to adapt to such schedule and, from time-to-time, I fell asleep on the job. One day on the start of my shift, one of guys from the night-shift crew told me that I was reported, not from the company I was working for, but from one of the upper-management from an US company (that I was never associated with) that saw me asleep as they were walking by. None of the Japanese workers even had thoughts of reporting me even if I was sleeping right in front of them. I was just told that they rather "see me improved" than to see me as replaceable. All the reports get sent up to my boss, and it got bad enough that he decided to ban the use of our smartphones at one point (we need those to use LINE, popular messaging service in Japan, to communicate with the Japanese workers). I only worked there for over a month, but it was enough to see a weird culture clash of US and Japanese working environments all in one place. Having to deal with stressful working hours AND worrying about the possibility of getting fired because you couldn't deal with your stressful working hours. I was told of story of an contractor working in the same company as me who just mentally broke down because of those long hours and getting constant complaints from other companies. Of course, he was eventually fired from the job. I kinda figured going back working in factory if I couldn't find a job anywhere, but that's the life of me that this point. Friend of mine has a job there working directly for Tesla ever since he finished school, but has to work 72 hours/week and it's only legal since he get overtime pay. By then, I just decided that working at the Gigafactory was the last thing I wanted to get a job at.
my employer told me (after I got a severe strain of the flu) to "go get a shot at the doctor and come back tomorrow" this is the same employer that said discussing my wage with my fellow employees is grounds for termination. (THAT IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL, yet they went on and said it anyway.) ..this is a few years after she got caught (with no punishment) removing hours that people worked from the scheduler to meet quotas. so yeah, murica and her workers' rights don't exist.
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