Oregon National Guardsman disciplined for FB post about "executing" immigrants
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http://thehill.com/latino/393674-oregon-national-guardsman-gets-disciplined-for-facebook-post-about-executing-immigrant
An Oregon Army National Guardsman is being disciplined for a Facebook comment about "executing" immigrant families.Guardsman Gerod Martin commented on an online fundraiser
aimed at helping reunite families affected by the Trump administration's separation policy for those caught crossing the border illegally.
"Waste of money...." Martin wrote Wednesday in the comments section for a fundraiser called "Reunite an immigrant parent with their child." "They're lucky we aren't executing
them."
According to The Oregonian, the state's national guard became aware of his comment shortly after it was posted.
A spokesperson for the Oregon Military Department told the newspaper that Martin admitted posting the comment. The spokesperson did not detail what discipline Martin will face,
but said the outrage over Martin's statement spread to his outpost.
"This is a horrible thing that he posted, we all know that," Maj. Stephen Bomar said. "It's unacceptable, horrific and doesn't reflect the values of our organization as a whole."
Martin, a military police officer, has been part of the Guard since December 2013. The newspaper noted that Martin has most likely scrubbed his Facebook page.
90% of people would be fired for this
Well on the one hand, if this were simply an observation it would have merit. Considering the Trump administration's track record they kinda are lucky we're not executing them. On the other hand this doesn't come across as a simple observation at all.
There's a serious problem in America where the people whose job it would be to save us from an authoritarian government are the most likely people to support an authoritarian government.
Pretty much exactly this.
Remember: Hitler couldn't do shit on his own, it was the goons that followed him that empowered him.
Well, Liberals don't like guns, cops, or soldiers. Which means they're less likely to own guns, be cops, or be soldiers.
I'm a liberal who likes guns, cops, and soldiers.
Me too, but I don't feel like the majority, especially on liberal websites.
The louder voices tend to be the ones with the more extreme views.
hey you know you are fully and well within your rights to bear arms, why the fuck are you expecting other people to do it for you?
Technically all members of the military swear and oath that would imply stopping a tyrannical government, but that happening in practice is laughable in my opinion.
You're fully within your rights to farm your own food, why are you expecting other people to do it for you?
You're fully within your rights to fix your own car, why are you expecting other people to do it for you?
You're fully within your rights to put out your own fires, why are you expecting other people to do it for you?
The fundamental principle of civilization is cooperative specialization. We each focus on doing one thing really well, and do it for other people. In exchange, other people do the other things we need. Currency is just an abstraction layer on top of that. The military is no different - some of us have specialized in protecting us from external enemies, and they do a damn good job of it. Sadly, as proboardslol pointed out, many seem like they may join, rather than combat, our internal enemies.
You do realize the way the Constitution is written specifically outlines that they're supposed to engage against you if deemed necessary by the President?
This was made pretty explicit after the Whiskey Rebellion, and further entrenched with the Insurrection Act; which congress amended in 2007 to give more power for the President to use at his discretion.
The oath people take when joining the military to uphold to the Constitution and to stand against all enemies foreign and domestic is them saying they will follow the Constitution and engage against citizenry if deemed necessary by the President.
Technically speaking, Trump is within full legal authority to send in the military to enforce the deportation of Illegal Immigrants.
Militaries protect states, not nations.
internal defense against tyranny, aka a revolt, is incomparable to any of these. if it looks like military action is required to keep this country from slipping into authoritarianism, then there's already a lot of people not upholding the social contract, things are bad and can't operate normally. if the military and "second amendment people" look like they aren't going to hold up their side of the deal, then other people need to step in to fill that gap.
He's lucky they aren't executing him.
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