Good. You can’t keep hiding from the past with these outrageous laws. The sooner you accept the horrors of the Holocaust and learn from it to prevent it from happening again, the better life will be for everyone.
Despite condemning said former law, I hope the US knows this too.
Except that the law was against spreading misinformation about poland being complicit in nazi crimes?
I mean, dont get me wrong, it was bad because freedom of speech and how would you even enforce that law in the first place, but thats hardly hiding from the past, unless you mean the past that didnt happen
Shit, I guess I misread it. Yeah, misinformation is no good, but it is pretty bullshit to face up with 3 years in prison for it.
I thought it was about banning the mention of "Polish death camps", despite the fact it can be used to mean both "Polish-run" and "located in Poland", at least in English. If the phrase also has the double-meaning in Polish, it's unfair to say it's about spreading misinformation. It's a factual term, censored because it can be interpreted another way. If the double-meaning doesn't exist and the phrase only means "Polish-run" then my bad, but I got a lot of conflicting info on it last time.
Honestly, I dont remember if just saying "polish death camps" was illegal
If so, fuck
The law forbade both using the term "Polish death camps" and stating or implying that the Polish nation was in any way complicit in the Holocaust, making it problematic to even discuss issues that both historians and Polish holocaust survivors generally agree are a thing.
It got to the point where an Israeli student delegation to Poland had a ceremony with Polish students cancelled because the Israeli speaker's speech would have referred to testimonies of Polish holocaust survivors as well as his own mother who suggest the Poles harmed Jews, and he refused to censor the speech or point the blame at Ukranians.
According to the Kiryat Bialik spokeswoman, this was one of the offending paragraphs as well as some text he wrote about his Polish-born mother, Chaya Dukorsky, who fled Nazi-occupied Poland to Russia and Ukraine.
“At the end of the war, her family returned to Poland to search for the rest of their extended family, all of whom were murdered in the Holocaust by the Nazis and their henchmen,” his speech read. “My mother’s only memory is that at the end of the war, when the train stopped at the station, Poles threw stones at it and shouted ‘Jews go home.’”
The law could've only made it illegal to state that Poland sheltered Hitler after WWII and uploaded his consciousness into a robot and it'd still be a fascist fucking law.
Are you calling it germany facist for making holocaust denial illegal then? Im as much pro-speech as any other guy, but considering the age of post-truths were in and the impact they have on our world, im not exactly blaming the nations for wanting to prevent historical revisionism from becoming mainstream (as long as it doesnt interrupt historical research, anyway).
Yeah, I do think it's pretty fascist actually.
That would be a consistent application of my beliefs.
What's your opinion on hate speech?
The same as the Supreme Court of the United States': it's valid speech protected by the first amendment.
How about walking up to someone and saying "I'm going to kill you tonight"
Are you trying to say that because threats are illegal that it's valid for the government to imprison those who say things they deem untrue?
No, i'm just wondering where your line is
My line is where your speech ceases to be sharing an idea and instead becomes a threat of violence.
But you don't see how certain kinds of misinformation cause violence?
every thread is a scavenger hunt for the most surreally wrong opinion and the answer is always geel
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