• 92% of Republicans think media intentionally reports fake news
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https://www.axios.com/trump-effect-92-percent-republicans-media-fake-news-9c1bbf70-0054-41dd-b506-0869bb10f08c.html The raw statistics
"Except Fox News. They tell me what I want to hear"
Funny that they don't mention 79% of independents and 53% of democrats agree.
"The news are fake whenever I hate them!"
This graph and the topic title are utter horseshit and don't represent the data. The graph doesn't even make sense.
I would have changed the title but there is a very harsh limit on thread titles here.
Now run the poll again asking the same question, starting the question with 'Excluding Fox News and CNN' and show me the majority that thinks it's a real problem.
I'm not blaming you. I just find it funny that they turned such a bipartisan response into something about Republicans.
92% is a dramatic proportion compared to 54%. It's news-worthy implicitly.
I think adding a few specific agencies would have been a good additions. I'm sure each side would put the blame on the other.
Well, they're not technically wrong, just missing the point entirely
One of those sides would rightly blame the other; the other would ignorantly blame the other.
"Fake News" is a real problem, and its vast and hideous face is the largest state propaganda network in the Western world -- Fox News.
It just reminds me of that one poll about obama/trump bombing in syria THE BIG IDEA: More Americans than ever view the news through red-colored glasses. In 2013, when Barack Obama was president, a Washington Post-ABC News poll found that only 22 percent of Republicans supported the U.S. launching missile strikes against Syria in response to Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons against civilians. A new Post-ABC poll finds that 86 percent of Republicans support Donald Trump’s decision to launch strikes on Syria for the same reason. Only 11 percent are opposed. -- Overall, a bare 51 percent majority of U.S. adults support the president’s action in our new poll. In 2013, just 30 percent supported strikes. That swing is driven primarily by GOP partisans. For context, 37 percent of Democrats back Trump’s missile strikes. In 2013, 38 percent of Democrats supported Obama’s plan. That is well within the margin of error. Independents are split evenly, with 46 percent backing Trump’s decision and 45 percent opposing it. -- Trump’s decision has had no impact on confidence in his leadership. A plurality say last week’s action doesn’t make a difference in their views of him: Republicans are far, far more partisan than democrats and anyone who says otherwise is being disingenuous
It's an easy way for Trump to pretty much align with everyone's agendas. With how much he contradicts himself, you just pick and choose which of the two statements he made is fake news and you're good to go. Not that I believe that's something he does intentionally for that reason, I think it's just a trait that horrible people have in common.
On that kind of issue, sure. I would love for a similar type of poll on something like Bernie's tariffs vs Trump's tariffs. I would be willing to bet that you would see a similar type of response in the opposite direction.
I agree with you but this sentence is kinda
Probably because Bernie's proposition for tariffs is completely different from what Trump did?
You mean like Trump's approach to Syria was also different than Obama's?
I suppose he did want to bomb the families of terrorists
Right, I'm sure that is the relevant difference in approach.
I'm not sure how the bombing of syria was different between the two of them!
Russia has successfully brainwashed half of America
Their approach and history were entirely different. Obama had just presided over the rise of ISIS in Iraq. He had refused to act on his own "red line". Etc. He was seen as weak willed when it came to military action. Republicans saw Trump's "red line" as a real line. Here's an article that sort of summarizes the difference in outlook: https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/direct-link-between-trump-s-syria-air-strikes-and-obama-inaction-20180414-p4z9mh.html Another funny point is that the CBS news poll, as cited in your article, showed that 40% of democrats supported Trump's missile strike, as opposed to only 10% in the poll you cited. The only difference in the question was that the CBS news poll didn't have Trump's name in the question. It just referred to the missile strikes, themselves. So ~30% of democrats seem to support the strike, or not support the strike, based on nothing more than whether Trump's name was mentioned.
No. All they did was back a absolute moron during the elections who was able to surface the true face of a large part of the Republican party. Everything else comes down to things that have been in place for a long time. It's media sites (FOX, tabloids, etc) and social media that helps spread false news directly to Republican party supporters. Everytime I go to a fucking grocery store I see magazines with massive headlines that spread 100% verifiable false information right before you get to the damn cash register which I bet anyone entrenched in their awful worldview will eat that crap up. My own family sometimes gets their news from Facebook and I have to fact check some of that garbage because I end up challenging claims. Almost everytime it ends up being completely false. If you've been paying attention you'd see that this whole political climate was ripe for a foreign goverment to interfere in and succeed in doing so.
Seems kinda weird that the response is "a lot/sometimes" unless it's just grouping the responses under yes or no. Like, I'd say the media puts a spin on some stories for editorial purposes, but I don't think I would belong in the "a lot" category. Seems a little disingenuous.
Today my coworker who recently became a starch republican after trump was campaigning asked me about a fake news article on FB. So i showed him sources to cross reference his sources to see if they are up to snuff. Then we talked about FB and the russian interference and after explaining why russia wants a dumbo like trump in office to cause mayhem to lower our overall world standing, he realized FB is a shit way to get your news. So he asked who to trust and i pointed him to the media bias checker and he never knew such a thing existed. Trump doubling over with his blame game with the immigrant kids completely de-trenched his head out of the GOP and start questioning the party. So I guess that's a good thing?
It's also worth looking into the specific breakdowns. For example, while 53% of Democrats think media purposefully pushes "fake news", only 21% believe they do it lot, vs 32% who believe they only do it sometimes. Independents are unbalanced the other way with 42% believing it's a lot, and 37% believing it's sometimes. Republicans show 69% believing it happens a lot to 23% sometimes. When the question becomes why the fake news gets passed on, a slim majority of both democrats and independents believe it is done because someone has an agenda(57% and 54% respectively, while the remainder believe it happens due to poor fact checking or by accident. The numbers between the two in all three categorie sare practically the same. Then you look at Republicans where a full 81% believe fake news is intentionally reported because someone has an agenda. There are a lot of interest stats here (48% of Republicans trust Google to verify news!) but I think it's smoothing over the point to say that every political demographic thinks "fake news" is a real problem. Obviously everyone thinks fake news is a problem but there is a clear disconnect between Republicans and everyone else.
I'm sure it is. Trump calls for torture, killing families, and questions decisions made to prevent civilian deaths. He vilifies and dehumanizes muslims. If this isn't the approach that conservatives like, maybe they should stop approving of it
Fake News is just a stupid buzzword. The Onion is fake news. 'Fake News' as it's being thrown around is just Feels before Reals/Lying through Omission/Biased It's not so much fake as it is directed to align with their interests/demographics
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