• Woman receives backlash after posing with a rare black giraffe she hunted
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https://thedailynet.com/read/news/american-hunter-shoots-giraffe-poses-for-photograph-with-dead-rare-black-giraffe-backlash
What a worthless cunt
An alarming quantity of human beings seem to possess zero concern for their surrounding environment that is not for their selfish needs
What subspecies is it? I can't tell since the article doesn't say and a cursory google search doesn't yield anything. Hard to tell if she's actually wreaking havoc conservation-wise.
The article doesn't really say anything about why its rare or what species/subspecies of giraffe it even is? "Black giraffe" isn't a species or even a subspecies as far as I know, and all giraffes get darker as they get older. And that giraffe specifically just looks really old considering how dark it is. The only giraffe known to be darker is the Rothschild's giraffe, and it doesn't look that dark normally. That is a really shit source and I can't find anything online that even specifies what kind of giraffe it is or even cites any sources, they're all stuff like LADBible. She could have been hunting with direct authorization from a conservation area and you all are still immediately losing your tops over this.
You guys realize that hunting these animals provides the locals with a way to protect the animals, and prevent needless deaths? The fact of the matter is the preservations in Africa rely on Hunting, and Hunters to survive. If there was no hunting, EVERY fucking animal would be poached for maximum short term profit. But due to hunting, there is an economy in place that seeks to keep these animals safe until the end of their natural lives when they're put into the hunting pool. It's the best possible solution. If you banned this shit, you'd quickly find poachers killing every animal they can for monetary reward. The practice of hunting pays for, and provides for a security force of locals who keep the animals safe. It's NOT as simple as some of you would believe.
Also, the only giraffe in South Africa is the Southern giraffe, which is one of the more populous giraffe species, not even a Rothschild's giraffe, which has less than 1/4th the population.
I'd point out the ignorance of this, but I have a strong feeling "Hunting wrong" will prevail for you, and you'd refuse to acknowledge that hunting is how these areas are able to survive and how these animals are still with us today. We'd have lost rhinos 20, or 30 years ago if we didn't have small hunting provisions in place that protected them. It was the NIMBY's who banned that shit out of moral outrage who ended up killing the white rhino.
I agree but we should be careful about what animals do get hunted. There is a good article about this from national geographic. . “Trophy” animals tend to be the most evolutionarily fit and possess the high-quality genes a population of animals need to adapt quickly to a changing environment, says evolutionary ecologist and lead author Robert Knell. “They also father a high proportion of the offspring. But if they’re killed before they can spread their ‘good genes’ around, this reduces the overall fitness and resilience of that population.” “When properly regulated, trophy hunting can be a powerful force for conservation, which is why we’re suggesting a different management approach as opposed to calling for a ban,” Knell says." Trophy Hunting May Drive Species to Extinctions Faster Due to Cl..
So she legally paid to go and shoot legal quarry? The problem? I don't see it.
Oh for sure the approach can be improved and should be It's just markedly better than a ban under any context.
There's a lot of posts in this thread talking about the practice of paying conservationists to cull animals to trophy hunt but I can't see anything in the article indicating this is that?
I'm fairly certain you have to pay or else it's a crime
Thanks To Hunters, Giraffes Are The Next Animal To Go On The End..
If hunting is legal in an area in africa, chances are it's part of a preservation as that's the bulk of the hunting zones in africa.
I'm no expert of course but from what I saw on google of SA's laws is that if you're a non-citizen hunter you have to be accompanied by a professional but it didn't seem to indicate such hunters had to be part of any conservation effort? The type of thing people in this thread are imagining is hunters paying massive fees to hunt exotic animals that would be otherwise illegal to hunt funding conservation, but this looks like it could have just been a typical guided hunt without necessarily having any relationship to conservation.
Well the article gets things about the facts wrong so I don't trust it regardless. This isn't a rare species of Giraffe. Giraffes turn black as they age. This is an end of life giraffe, not a "Different species". So the article starts off on a dishonest, and incorrect foot.
Yeah no disagreement from me on any of those points, article is bad.
My statement had nothing to do about the frantic damage control happening in the present moment, it had to do with this living situation existing there to begin with.
I'm 100% for animal rights and don't support factory farming, but I recognize that trophy hunting is essentially a neccasary evil. I think its wierd to want to kill another living being, but if these millionaires want to blow their money to kill an aging animal and help protect others while also support a community I see no problem with that.
In response to an article purely about demonizing someone who legitimately and legally hunted an animal and plans on using its meat? LOL yeah, I’m sure that’s what you meant.
I am not allowed to have a broad response to a specific topic?
People are so broadly ignorant to how hunting works it's truly ironic how people who complain about it don't know that hunting does wonders for conservation in general. People who don't know anything about hunting shouldn't have a say, considering how California banned mountain lion hunting and B.C. banned grizzly hunting, and now both are proving to be a huge problem. People need to stop putting certain animals on a pedestal for reasons that don't align with reality.
We now have full grown grizzlies encroaching on the city limits of major urban areas in BC. Why? Because it's illegal to hunt them, and nothing in nature kills a bear except other bears which is rare regardless. So they push out their territory as much as they want as their numbers expand. They're not afraid of people. They're a genuine problem, and carefully measured responses like limited number hunting tags is a good solution generally.
this "trophy hunting is good" meme is fucking sad Even if it does provide them money, it enables these sick individuals to think that poaching is great. Trophy hunting fucking sucks and its pathetic that this one of the big reasons conservation is happening.
Okay. So lets ban it. And in 10 years, or less, there will be none of these animals left at all. None. Because you don't want to pay for them. Liberals don't want to donate tens of millions of dollars a year to this cause. Groups like PETA that focus on how evil this is? Kill more animals a year, than any other group in the United States. If you think it's sad these animals are kept safe by a practice of hunting, then too bad. It keeps them safe better than any other method. The part that bothers me the most is that we'd rather let these animals be extinct than to actually protect them, and any offering you make is a token, hollow gesture. The only people making actual change to the areas that these animals live in? The hunters. It really doesn't "perpetuate" the problem. Ignorance does. Like the ignorance in "Hunting", and "Poaching". You keep calling this a trophy kill. The giraffe in this story was not a trophy kill. It was eaten. All 2000 pounds of useable meat was eaten. BY DEFINITION IF THE ANIMAL IS EATEN FOR MEAT, IT IS NOT A TROPHY KILL Maybe people might be more receptive to your opinion if it aligned, even slightly, with our reality.
Aaaand now she's gonna go into hiding because of months of death threats. Goodbye any businesses she had, any reputation outside of friends and family. Her life is essentially over because of this
Makes sense what you're saying but just look at those pictures and tell me that she doesn't look like a "Trophy Hunter". I think most of us hate those people who are posing right next to a dead animal, think they're cool and seem like they have no respect for nature and its inhabitants. Doesn't help that giraffe is in such a "caring and loving" pose. If she didn't release any of those pictures, no one would've cared at all.
counterpoint, there's some studies that determined that only about 3% of the trophy hunting fees goes towards actual communities protecting the reservations in some places. its not working well everywhere and every reservation is different but to say all the funds from trophy hunting goes to preserve the other animals doesn't appear to be absolutely true
I honestly, do not care that she's in a pose in front of her kill. It does not bother me, and it likely does not reflect the way she may feel about the kill. Many of the hunters I've spoken to do not relish killing animals, it's merely part of the act of hunting. It's out of stewardship, care and respect for the lands and the animals that they do what they do, and I know that strikes many as counter intuitive.
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