https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2018/06/26/a-legend-reborn-microsoft-brings-back-the-iconic-mouse-the-classic-intellimouse/#MrllX3gHI6Y1Dfpr.97
Inspired by the Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 from 2003, Microsoft has recently released the new Microsoft Classic IntelliMouse. Offering the same classic ergonomic look and
feel, the new Microsoft Classic IntelliMouse offers improved performance and additional features made possible by technology today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4muQs733bk
I'm not sure who wanted this. The IntelliMouse's sensor isn't any good by today's standards anymore, and there are plenty of gaming mice with excellent sensors that have blatantly ripped off the IntelliMouse's shell shape. I highly doubt MS stuffed an actually good sensor into this thing, since it's got that gimmicky "track on glass" thing going on.
Interesting that they kept the same Omron and Kailh switches though. If they'd put a 3310, 3366 or similar sensor into this, it could have been a great buy. As it stands, I have no idea what this thing is intended for.
What has changed since the 2003 design?
“We improved two really important factors, the tracking
sensor and the tactility and feel of the buttons. What we know our fans
will see and feel is that it’s the exact same shape and size of the
IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 from 2003. However, underneath the hood it’s
all brand-new technology, brand new mechanical engineering and brand-new
structures so it’s a lot more rigid than the original. The build
quality is really excellent.
I read the article, yes. Just because they put a new sensor into it, doesn't mean they put a good sensor into it.
I'm not aware of any zero-acceleration sensor that tracks on glass.
I've never had a mouse that doesn't track on glass, and I've definitely had mice with good quality sensors...?
Oh, huh. I just tried my G403 and G203 and they don't but maybe we're trying on different kinds of glass. They're certainly trying to track but they jump around at random.
Nah what concerns me is the "BlueTrack" name, which they've been putting on cheapo mice since like 2009 and has shit tons of acceleration. I'm really skeptical.
That trampoline part though.
the MX518's sensor has a locked 128Hz polling rate and unfixable angle snapping. The G400s is objectively better in every way if you can't give up the shape.
A guy at my work still uses an original IntelliMouse, he must be excited
Yeah, exactly. The WMO and Intellimouse were some of the first to have no acceleration. Which is why I'm worried about this one, if they're slapping an office-tier sensor in it, it'll probably have lots of acceleration.
Apparently this mouse has actually been around since earlier this year. Has anybody bought it? Is it just as good as the original? Reviews say otherwise...
I'm sorry, mate, but this sequence of comments from you lead me to believe that you didn't read the article and are just trying to save face. There's no other reason I can think of for you to state things this way.
I want the zune brought back, the holy trinity.
After he finally explained what he was talking about, I think his concerns are perfectly reasonable. I definitely would not put it past Microsoft not to know what people want.
The MLT04 is literally better than any of the trash pixart is shitting out right now though if you ignore the 1.6m/s PCS and 2.55m/s max tracking speed. The 3310 is literally shit: 8ms of smoothing, pretty bad PCS, and also has generally pretty poor accel characteristics. 336x feels really glassy to me for some reason.
This happened like...8 months ago, and the sensor the mouse dropped with was absolute dog shit, it is a ~3000 FPS office sensor that can handle relatively high speed tracking (>2m/s, which is decent for an office sensor), but tended to have issues with surface compatibility and an inconsistent malfunction speed.
MX518 is not locked at 125Hz, it can be overclocked, and the drivers to do so are signed on older versions of Windows and on the newest version of Windows 10 there's a trick to run it without test mode. The G400 > G400s, with the exception of shell design being more sloppy on the G400 and getting worn down eventually, most Logitech mice have rather sloppy shell design. MX518 is a good mouse, but people who praise it like it's the best thing ever should get a G400, the shape is good, but the G400 is far better because of the higher PCS, even if the max tracking speed is marginally lower than the MX518's own.
Tracking on glass is a non-issue for most sensors, the smoothness/reflection isn't an issue, it's the lift-off distance being either really high or really low on them that is an issue, which is why small chips might make the mouse skip.
I would take a HERO, Mercury, AM010, 3320, 3090, 3080, 3060, 3050, over the 3310 any day due to the poor motion delay of the sensor, most other sensors have far lower smoothing or no smoothing at all. The old BlueTrack sensor also wasn't complete garbage, it was actually a rather interesting design that unfortunately died too soon, probably due to cost issues, the problem was it had rather bad speed dependent resolution error, and the malfunction speed was rather low at about 2.5m/s, rivaling only entry-level sensors like the 3050.
3320 is the best budget gaming sensor. 3310 is from last generation and should die there, it's a great example of what not to do in when trying to provide a sensor to gamers. HERO is the best modern gen sensor thus far, regardless of if you're using it for office or gaming work, period.
Yeah, actually. I own a WMO with a fucked-up left click. I also used a Steelseries Rival 300 with a 3310 for about a year. Then moved to a Logi G403 with a 3366, currently settled on a G203 with that "Mercury" sensor that nobody knows anything about.
I literally can't tell any difference between any of the four sensors, to be perfectly honest (with the notable exception of Mercury having a fuckhuge lift-off distance that I'll get used to eventually... I hope). The 3310 does have issues and is rated below the 3366 for a reason, but they're mostly imperceptible in practice unless you tilt-slam for some reason. I definitely like the WMO the least because it stops tracking above a certain speed, and I game at very low sensitivities so I feel like I hit that maximum speed fairly easily. I also have just now started using a DPI above 800, and most sensors have great behavior at low DPI.
Sensors are so good these days, you can mostly ignore them in my opinion. The differences are there, but it's so difficult to notice them, or hit their limits in practice. It's much more important to find a good shape with good buttons.
Razer makes me a little sad and frustrated more than anything else. Their products have serious potential, and they know how to sculpt a mouse shell, but they're let down hard by corner-cutting, bad QC, and awful software that requires an internet connection for some reason.
Always did like the Intellimouse but I honestly don't think that it's worth $40.
I could get a M65 Pro with better tracking and all the bells and whistles for the same price.
I use 80cm/360 and I have to try pretty hard to make my WMO malfunction.
As a disclaimer I actually use a Nixeus Revel (3360 ODM mouse) as a daily driver, but that's because the USB overclocking drivers don't work on my current motherboard.
I bought one of these. The sensor sucks ass. Buy a Nixeus or a Steelseries over this anyday
Does it feel like the bog-standard office sensor I can't help but assume it is?
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