Canadian restaurant flooded with bad reviews after kicking out man with MAGA hat - Polidicks

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/394989-yelp-reviewers-give-canadian-restaurant-one-star-reviews-after-it Reviewers flooded the Yelp page of a Canadian restaurant with one-star reviews after a manager was fired for kicking out a man wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat. The Teahouse in Vancouver’s Stanley Park has come under fire for the incident, which occurred less than a week after White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was kicked out of a Virginia restaurant. The negative reviews came from both sides of the aisle, with some critiquing the restaurant for kicking out the patron, and other tearing into the restaurant for firing the manager. “The cowardice decision to err on the wrong side of the fence to avoid negative publicity in a catch 22 position has definitely revealed the selfishness of the organization not to stand with their employees,” wrote one reviewer. “I agree with some other reviewers that wearing a MAGA hat these days is the same thing as wearing a black swazstika arm band. It is just offensive.” “Management here practices discrimination and bigotry,” wrote another reviewer. “Will be cancelling my daughter's bachelorette party of 50 after learning of this despicable behavior.” Canada’s CBC News reported that the manager, who had worked at the restaurant for 18 months, told the customer that the restaurant would not serve him unless he removed the hat, a symbol of President Trump’s campaign. “As a person with a strong moral backbone, I had to take a stand against this guest's choice of headwear while in my former place of work. Absolutely no regrets," the former employee told CBC News.The restaurant owners said they fired the employee because his actions did not align with their policy of hospitality and inclusiveness. “[He] was aware what he was doing was probably contrary to our values and our philosophy as a company,” the restaurant’s general manager said. Many reviewers accused the restaurant of aligning with “hate speech” and “racism,” and said that the employee was wrongfully terminated. “Boycott this place,” added one reviewer. “This restaurant supports intolerance and discriminates against every minority group by not standing behind their manager's decision. You lost all of my business.” The manager was fired for kicking the person out, couldn't fit that in the title.

No it isn't and honestly the comparison to the Holocaust is getting annoying Locking people inside camps and forcing them out of the country and separating children from parents is nowhere near as horrific as what happened in the holocaust and a holocaust of mexicans will not happen in America. To think that people try to argue that the separation of child and parent is equal to both of them being murdered is utterly dramatic

Supporting a party of right wing nationalist, isolationist, xenophobic, ethnocentric, anti media religious traditionalists who have special detention camps for undesirables? YES

Sorry to break it to you but those camps aren't for herding people to death

Yeah, because nazi germany just started that way out of nowhere

If you have proof that the Trump admin is really going to start executing and gassing immigrants by all means show me but until then its a stupid comparison to a horror far worse than whats happening.

Being similar to the beginning of nazi germany does not rely on being similar to later nazi germany

the problem is that a lot of trump supporters dont really know about these things. a lot of people really spend no time with politics. their entire political news updates may come inbetween weather reports for the few minutes the TV is on in the morning as these people get ready for work. And if they set their channel to fox news particularly, they won't hear about these issues of the trump administration. We must keep in mind that a lot of these people are "republican" because their family is and they grew up that way, not because they decided show after an hour of news reading for several years (and to be frank, a lot of democrats are the same). To call those people outright Nazis and lump them with the same group of people who actually know whats going on and endorse it wont help. The good news though is I think this is beginning to shift. Especially with the whole debacle of imprisoning children, people are beginning to hear about what is happening and questioning their default choices.

Yes it does Sorry to break it to you but when they took children away from the adults in Nazi germany, they killed them straight away. They did not harbour them and then send them away, t hey also didn't send Jews out of germany, they directly imprisoned them. Your comparison to Nazi Germany is hopelessly dramatic and improves nothing of what you're saying, All you're implying is that at some point Trump is going to order Mexicans and immigrants to be gassed or shot. good luck proving that point

No, i'm implying that they're being similar in a lot of ways, that's it

You said that wearing a MAGA hat is just the same as wearing a swaztika arm band you and many other users have called Trump and his entire administration literal nazis and this being the beginning of a nazi dictatorship or some other bullshit So are they Nazis or not? Because if they are they're doing a terrible job at doing the actual genocide part.

Well if they're not doing literal genocide at this exact moment then I guess they're just fuckin dandy

So you're expecting them too or what because bad news, they won't There will never be an American holocaust by Trump

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Provide an example of them being killed by force in a genocidal manner

Is all people think about when they hear nazi germany "evil people who popped up out of nowhere and gassed jews"?

"...Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don't want to act, or even talk, alone; you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' Why not?-Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty. Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, 'everyone' is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, 'It's not so bad' or 'You're seeing things' or 'You're an alarmist.' And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can't prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don't know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.... But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked-if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in '43 had come immediately after the 'German Firm' stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in '33. But of course this isn't the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D. And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying 'Jewish swine,' collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in-your nation, your people-is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way." -Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945 The notion of "don't worry until it's too late" is far too common in this country. Things are rapidly changing here, and it's not just about Trump and his administration. It's been going on for decades now. I remember complaining 6 or even 8 years ago that the term "illegals" and the vitriol that goes along with that phrase was worrisome to me because it dehumanizes people, reducing them to merely a legal status and ignoring the how and why, and I was rated rainbows for it all the way back then. Then we started seeing "papers please" laws near the border. Now we have a president who talks about these people "infesting" our country, breaking up their families, abusing their children, and the right wing is standing by, either ignoring it or applauding it. Make no mistake- when we decide that human rights are an option, an idea we can throw away because certain people are less human than others, then we are in deep shit. Nobody is safe, and things can and will get worse. By the way, half of Republican voters would approve of suspending elections in this country due to nebulous claims of voter fraud invented by Trump to explain the 3 million vote lead Hillary had in 2016, and I can provide a source if you ask for it (Washington Post). Or in other words, the right wing is so hateful of undocumented immigrants that they've invented an entire conspiracy against this nation, and they're rallying behind a strong leader who will make them go away, even at the expense of our democracy. The scariest thing is that Trump isn't the real danger, it's the portion of the American public that's fueling him and his rise to power. This country has tons of fascists in it, tons of racists, and all sorts of anti-democratic voters. They just weren't united and motivated until this decade, until they had the right leader to get behind. You can keep asking for proof that what happened in Germany is going to happen here, and do nothing in the process. But how are you going to feel if, one day, someone gives you that proof? How will you feel about the person you've been in the meantime?

Where's the optimistic rainbow when you need it?

Creating tent camps in a state where the temperature frequently rises above 100 degrees will probably cause deaths

The fact that people are using 'well bad things didn't happen out of nowhere!' to justify the completely inequivalent comparison between internment camps and death camps is ridiculous. It's one thing to say 'this could lead to worse things if it goes unchecked'. It's another to equivocate support for a president to endorsing fucking genocide.

Except ICE concentration camps actually exist, FEMA camps don't.

prove fema containment camps exist

Fema containment camps don't exist and neither do ICE death camps ICE concentration camps do but they're not death camps, they are not set up to kill whos in them. Saying that ICE have set up death camps is the same as the FEMA theory because they don't exist, they're paranoid claims with no basis You'll have a basis when they start killing people. Which is not their objective, they might be thugs but that was deffo not a delibreate decision Fine because i'm British jokes aside thank you for a decent reply instead of dramatics The problem I see with seeing Trump's actions as the oncoming effect of a holocaust is exactly the same issue i have with people saying a civil war needs to happen or will happen For example, i agree, i do think Trump's voters are far scarier a prospect than he is because they'll settle for anyone worse than he is. But what can you "do" about that? They're people voting in a democratic system for people who are anti-democracy and they'll do that for whoever they like and probably doing the same damage. Also You can keep asking for proof that what happened in Germany is going to happen here, and do nothing in the process. But how are you going to feel if, one day, someone gives you that proof? How will you feel about the person you've been in the meantime? There is still not an explanation as to how and why this holocaust would happen. Saying that is a living holocaust is still a fallacy because its not comparable, unless you can show how its happening, its not happening. The world has not forgotten the holocaust and if something like that was being done by the American government there would deffo be an intervention. Until there is substantial proof that a holocaust or genocide will happen or that a civil war is even close to occuring theres no point in saying it will because its a dream pipe thought

we're definitely on the road to genocide

You can apply that chart to nearly every ethnic minority in America, especially African Americans but they're nowhere near being genocided To imply that Nazi or Rwandan style genocide is about to break out at any time in america to immigrants is utterly bizarre

"There's no need to be alarmed because they haven't literally built the gas chambers yet." There's a reason there's protests around America. This shit is unacceptable and anybody who has basic human decency should be out on the streets calling for the abolition of ICE and the resignation of Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions for allowing the same kind of evil practices that have led to actual genocide in the past. Do I think it would actually happen? I fucking hope not, but I'm not going to wait around to find out while chastising other people with lark like "don't worry because they haven't actually killed them yet."

“Sorry to break it to you” Piggo, but when the Nazis erected the first concentration camps, political prisoners were rounded up under the legal pretense of “protective custody” — allegedly for their own safety, but in reality for purposes of torture and interrogation. Once placed in this so-called protective custody, prisoners had no legal recourse; in other words, they were detained indefinitely without trial. While deaths within these camps were common (up to 200 a year, in the case of Dachau) the mass-murder of the Holocaust didn’t come until later — after the Nazis had consolidated their power and were free from any accountability. They did not “kill them right away” per se. If you’re going to act like a condescending know-it-all, at least get your history right. Right now you’re just making a fool out of yourself. The current administration is using the exact same tactics as the Nazis in the early stages of genocide: they have enacted a vicious system of government-sponsored persecution against a cultural Other, largely out of sight of the public and veiled with propaganda, for the express purpose of instilling terror, all under the auspices of providing safety and security for the very people they have chosen to persecute. So yes, it is absolutely fair (and critical) to compare Trump and his hatchet men to Nazis.

No, nowhere have i said there is no reason to not be alarmed or just as horrified by the camps, but calling them death camps is a straight up lie with no basis besides paranoia its, ironically, fake news

Literally this The US will not see a genocide for at the very least a 100 years and probably more.

If I were to speculate how it would work, I would look back on how the Bush administration handled the War on Terror. The administration convinced the public and Congress of the need for greatly-expanded powers to handle a crisis, sometimes by generating false evidence, and once it had those powers it abused the hell out of them. We ended up with secret prisons, torture, and mass, warrant-less wire taps. It took years for the courts to unravel the mess and many of those policies and institutions are still in place. With the way we've already seen the current administration has pitched conspiracy theories and attempted to convince the public that the "illegals" are a problem that needs to be solved by extreme measures (breaking up families as a deterrent), then I wouldn't be surprised if Trump or a future Republican/fascist presidential administration attempted to bring the death penalty against undocumented immigrants en mass. Of course, they'd create arbitrary distinctions of who the death penalty would be used against, starting of course with "violent criminals" before proceeding down to drug traffickers and burglars, and so on. They'd know better than to go after children and most women. They'd call it a deterrent against future illegal immigration. The biggest test would be what happens if the courts place their full bearing against the administration to stop. If the administration refuses to accept the ruling, who's going to rise up against the US president if an organization like ICE is conducting firing-squad executions against the "illegals"? From there, the whole situation gets too muddy to even fathom a prediction, but the one thing that would be certain is that by the end of it, hundreds or thousands of people will have been killed off all over the southern United States. We don't need ten million deaths to call it a genocide.