• 12 Boys, Coach Missing In Thailand Caves "Found Safe" After 9 Days
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https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/12-boys-coach-missing-in-thailand-caves-found-safe-after-9-days-1876746 https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-44681374#
This is fucking amazing in every sense of the word.
Hopefully they make it out of the cave. Starvation would be hard enough for doctors to deal with if they didn't have to dive into the depths of the cave system to treat the team for it.
Holy shit I'm so fucking glad to hear this. Today's issue of Metro (Sweden) mentioned that they were gonna deploy divers to locate the missing folks. Glad it worked out.
wow thats incredible, been following updates on twitter about them expanding the search day after day. after 3 days i thought there was no hope finding them alive.
Bad news: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44692813?ns_linkname=news_central&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social They either wait it out or learn to dive to get out.
Can't they bring scuba gear?
I was gonna respond that they can bring in some heavy pumps or give them the gear and lead them or something, but then I see they're 2.5 fucking miles in. And the map showed of the cave system is ridiculous with turns. No way these kids gonna make those dives in complete darkness. Man that fucking blows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWJWlmCsbsQ
Even in scuba gear cave diving is extremely dangerous. They could easily panic and either kill them self or the other divers. Cave diving is already dangerous as is, learning under regular conditions but they have practically zero view down there. Expert agree that it should be the last option and that keeping them well with regular supply etc would be a better way.
getting the weakened kids out of the cave through miles of underwater tunnels is going to be an herculean task. Major honors to those who will risk their lives to do so.
Jesus, could have to wait months in that cave. Hope they are atleast brought a lot of light, preferably something that changes in color warmth according to the time of day. Easy to go mad in there.
Hopefully someone bring a generator plus a ps4
For the sake of their sanity they're going to have to bring them something to occupy themselves with.
Looks like they're getting out then. You can go on a cruise and they offer 1 hour on board certification for diving to everyone before they take you out. It's simple and easy. Until you get into real depth below 1 atmosphere for any length of time
Even worse, none of them can swim. They can supply food to the trapped, but someone needs to actually teach them how to maneuver in water at all before they can leave if they don't want to wait a third of a year (all while hoping floodwaters don't just fill up that section, too). Fortunately or hopefully, they'll learn quickly and can trust their rescuers to speed up the process, since I doubt they want to throw away so many weeks for naught.
Diving in open clear tropical water is quite a different beast than cave diving which is reserved for literal expert divers. It'd be very risky.
Cave diving is far, far more difficult and dangerous than ocean diving. Considering they are completely untrained, many unable to even swim, and weak from malnourishment, I would not attempt to bring them out that way unless absolutely necessary (ie. their chamber itself is flooding). The dive would take place in complete darkness, save for whatever light you can bring with you, and even then you have extremely limited visibility due to sediment. The route reportedly has strong currents, both pushing against you and pulling you along, and includes several extremely tight crawls. They're also over a mile inside the caves - an extremely long dive. It seems that leaving them there, with all the support we can provide, is by far the safest option. Maybe, if the water level drops enough that only short dives are necessary, it could be possible, but I would not want to risk it unless staying put is no longer an option.
How did they end up so far in? This is such a fucked up situation, I really hope they work something out soon.
They were exploring the cave when heavy rains started (monsoon season), which flooded the cave system. They probably found themselves trapped, and had to retreat further into the caves to avoid being drowned. This sort of thing has happened to veteran cave explorers - I remember reading recently about a professional team being caught in a cave by surprise rains, and chose to keep exploring the far reaches while waiting for it to subside, since they had plenty of supplies with them.
This is probably the article you mean:
That makes sense, I suppose they may have continued into the cave to try and find another way out after the way they came in got blocked by water.
Dipping your toes in the water like in those courses is literally nothing compared to cave diving. You don't know what you're talking about.
Obligatory image because people underestimate cave diving That, and the image is cool as heck https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/236793/1e2ba654-c962-4626-bed9-821269937e57/image.png
These kinds of signs are pretty common, and they are all over Florida's sinkholes. People love to go exploring not realizing that we don't even know where these sinkholes go because we can't even send tracking equipment that far into the earth.
Update: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/05/thailand-cave-rescue-thai-free-boys-football-soccer-team-monsoon-rain-live
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/former-navy-seal-working-on-thailand-rescue-effort-dies-1878753 Shitty update. The diver's mission was to bring oxygen tanks and carry lines along the passageways between a forward operating base and the muddy embankment where the children and coach are sheltering. Even for expert divers the journey is an exhausting 11-hour round trip. "It's very risky (diving out). Think about it, a Navy Seal just passed away last night, so how about a 12-year-old kid," said Rafael Aroush, an Israeli diver helping the rescue bid.
I wonder if that would happen. Like would it dissolve in the running water and leave the cave? In a related question, are the kids entirely dependant on o2 tanks being delivered to them or we're the tanks that diver was bringing just for if they decide to swim out? If they aren't running on bottled air, then where is their air coming from? Does it come out of the water?
Man, the dive is currently a 5 hour trip! That's absolutely insane. No way the kids can do that.
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