The one thing I really don't miss about school in the UK was the uniforms.
uniforms are dumb
The article is right, everyone should be allowed to wear skirts regardless of their gender.
uk school uniforms fucking suck, was so glad when i found out i didn't have to wear a uniform in college
>There are also bans in schools in Leeds, Grimsby and Bradford, where some schools with a high proportion of Muslim pupils do not allow skirts for modesty reasons.
It sounds bad but I was kinda scanning for this in particular. Gender discrimination is not nearly as hot a topic in the UK as it is in the US, or at least I haven't been around much debate regarding it, people seem kinda cool with whatever everyone else wants to do regarding this subject and people aren't forcing it down peoples throat. Obviously that's a generalization and that is intended.
Islam is having a bit of an uncomfortable hold on English schools right now, simply through numbers, in many cases sciences are being taught only because they have to by religiously motivated teachers. Here is Dawkins being the hero that he is bringing light on the issue, and this was some time ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plahbpT2fEo
I'm not bashing on anybody or anything, I just think the thread is a lot more complicated than it's letting on. We need to clamp down on this kinda stuff on both extremes, whether that is keeping religious fundamentalists out of the classroom or banning clothing that has been in HUMAN HISTORY SINCE THE DAWN OF FUCKING MAN.
I always found it hilarious how my shit hole of a school wanted us to wear our uniforms, like so many other schools, the look a specific way and represent the school properly, formally even, whereas if we were to dress in a way that actually represented the school, we'd dog shit and piss filled bin bags with massive holes in them.
When did skirts stop being professional attire again? Cause like plenty of professional women wear skirts. It's not like they just wear some skimpy cheerleader thing that's barely covering their bodies.
When upskirting brcame a thing.
When would that be @ASparkle ?
I actually liked mine. Made it so I didn't have to worry about what I was wearing. Also the pants I had in my high school uniform were literally the most comfortable pants I have ever worn. Hot days were a bit miserable though
Uniforms are fucking awful, I had to spend 100+ quid on that shite only to have to get a new one the next year, the school I used to go to also required you to get their own special uniform for PE which was another £150 but at that point I just told them to fuck off.
Bollocks, does that mean women really shouldn't be showing off any skin at all then for them to not be raped? Clearly the attire is at fault and not the people doing this stupid shit, but sure, skirts are bad because of upskirting.
Uniform policies in schools are typically overzealous to the point of stupidity. I knew a kid from Lincoln who's school made them wear blazers even in the middle of a heatwave, he actually passed out from it at one point.
What the fuck does this actually even mean
So ever since the invention of the camera then?
This is a cute dismissal, but there's a specific kind of camera that's only been around for a while that makes taking a sneaky photo really easy. Everyone has one today. They're super portable. Inconspicuous as the camera isn't the main function. And the cameras are pretty decent themselves now. Guesses on a stamped and addresses postcard to this freepost po box.
I wouldn't be super shocked if there were more women avoiding skirts in situations where someone could sneak a picture up it easily. Portable cameras are way harder to call out today compared to just over a decade ago.
More on topic: the rules around school uniforms over here are always kinda fucking stupid if I'm honest. If you're one of the lucky ones who only has to fit a specified colour scheme and general style then at the very least you can buy something affordable/ actually comfortable. So god help you if you have to buy from the school itself. I recall my old school added blazer to the code after I left, but you were required to wear the things at all times for a while, even during summer. These weren't especially thin and could only be bought through the school itself as it had to had the schools logo on the breast.
Rather than actually fixing the problem most of the time schools just add a new arbitrary restriction to the code to minimise what you can wear even more, as if that's actually going to stop complaints. I can get why uniforms exist in some ways, but at the same time it's just a shitload of clothes you're going to hate for a few years and never, ever wear outside of one place.
yeah the one thing about education in the united states, amongst many, many, many shitty things, is that the uniform shit isn't as common over here (probably because a lot of parents would bitchfit for a lot of reasons)
which is good for me because a childhood where I couldn't wear edgy metal band shirts is no childhood worth living through
Instead, my district made us (and still does) wear a polo shirt that must be one of the two colors for your school, khaki/beige shorts/pants (finger-tip length or longer), belt, closed toe shoes. Strict enough to be really fucking annoying, loose enough to be really fucking ugly through inconsistencies in colors and designs.
I disagree-, students should be allowed flexibility and opportunity when given the choice of their own clothing. Enforcing professional or office attire is potentially stifling to otherwise creative and expressive students.
Obviously there should be some restrictions to prevent it from getting entirely out of hand but I don't believe having an enforced dress code will positively impact the moods of the students.
My office job has a business casual dress code. No wearing logos or prints, dress/skirt doesn't rise too far above the knees, no pajamas/wife beaters etc. Anything else is allowed so why is this unreasonable for most schools?
Worst part of our uniform was a tie, and never learning how to properly tie it
Best part is... well,
maybe a fetish
we had clip on ties lmao
and yeah i get that part of the appeal of school uniforms, but that's when they actually look good to begin with. my school's uniform was just depressing all over
Why don't they just let people where what they want to school? Whats with the UK's control fetish
One reason my school gave was that it helped prevent bullying - kids can be horrible to each other, and everyone wearing the same thing helps reduce people being picked on because their family can't afford nice clothes, etc.
That said, despite my school being very strict on uniform standards, (blazer, shirt, tie, etc), they were pretty good at relaxing them in the summer - during the summer months we generally didn't have to wear blazers in class, and on hot days we were allowed to wear shorts and loosen our collars and ties. Plus the school gave parents help with buying uniform if they needed it. People have had different experiences to me though.
same here, seems to be pretty common, education is "free" but there's loads of shit parents have to pay for
Ours was really basic. Nothing fancy like jackets or blazers.
Our jumpers were knitted and shit if we wanted to wear them
When I gave a shit I looked pretty great in it
Ties were mandatory for all students during the winter, so the summer was pretty dope in that regard
Skirt Length and hair length, and hair colour phrases I heard the most though.
Yeah, they enforced that quite harshly
So instead they force poor families to buy expensive uniforms? And if they do provide them for free/at a reduced price to the least well-off, why don't they just give them a grant so they can buy their child some proper clothing instead and forgo this whole uniform bullshit.
That's just a lame excuse, really.
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