Tennessee judge rules the state can no longer revoke driver's license over fees - Polidicks

Tennessee law revoking driver's licenses unconstitutional, feder..

Good move, laws like this just end up breaking down already struggling people and keeping them in poverty.

its tragic that the two pillars of conservatism are encourage the rich to spend more by rewarding them with benefits and lower taxes, and punish the poor for being such through policies that make being poor criminal.

Don't forget once youve encouraged the lower class to stay on the poverty line you have to treat them like lazy welfare queens who want a government handout because their hourly wage barely covers bloated rent.

GA needs this. I got a 680 ticket (first ticket) and I tried to be polite and explain that I was lost and trying to get home, and that I kept getting turned around. What's that cop do? Have another cop pull in front of me, because the car was my mother-in-laws so he thought I stole it, even though I explained that, searched me and everything. I live in middle of no where, and the fact that all the jobs are in town I have to drive regardless of my license..I can not not work, but it's goddamn about kills me to drive by a cop, even if I'm only going 1mph over the limit.

It shouldn't be that when I see a squad car on the road that my first thought is "Am I going the speed limit?"

Genuinely, why not? Speeding and reckless driving are a huge road hazard. People speeding down roads and highways going 15 miles over the limit have literally killed people. I always try to make sure I stay 5 over the limit or under.

Georgia cops like to pull over even at 5mph. My mom was given a ticket for being parked in a fire lane infront of a store for my sister, even when she was in the car with the engine on. 250$ for absolutely nothing.

You wouldn't have to think that if you, uh, didn't speed. It doesn't even get you anywhere faster by any amount of time that matters, unless you're driving way over. It'd be weird if police ignored the guy flying past them down the road just so randos didn't view them as... uh, the guys who enforce the law?

you're completely missing the point. when you see a cop, you should feel safe and secure knowing the law can and will be upheld around you. you should not feel scared that the officer is going to abuse their authority and criminally punish you for nothing. if you've ever been the victim of poor policing, you would totally understand..

If you're speeding he isn't abusing his authority so this doesn't stand up.

My province has a weird relationship with speeding. http://www.sense.bc.ca/disc/disc-05.htm There's a fair bit of data that people here have drudged up that shows there's not an easy correlation of speeding and deaths. Other factors may be at play quite often.

I just got a ticket last week (last week of the month) and there were 8 cop cars patrolling one stretch of the highway, the cop even said I was going as fast as the other cars. Now every day for the last week I've checked, not a single cop on that stretch, nor has there been for weeks.

Ah, my homeland. Cops are so awful in GA. If you're under 30 they harass the fuck out of you and always call for backup so they can intimidate you as much as possible.

It's pretty obvious there are quotas when you see increased cop activity near the end of the month. I had to contest a ticket in court once, that was not fun at all. Basically some state troopers (known to be pretty massive dicks in this area) pulled me over for "doing 75 in a 45". Problem is, I know my truck, you have to absolutely GOOSE that thing to get it anywhere near 75, and the speedometer tops out at 85, so I know I wasn't going anywhere near 75. I noticed them before they pulled me over. I was coming up on a stop-light, and they were also approaching the light, but it turned green before I got there, and they were slowing down to stop. Seemed like they were going about 30 MPH by the time I got to the intersection. :think: Turns out it was a trainee and his supervisor, but I still asked them if they were familiar with Doppler-shift. There are some radars that compensate for the movement of the car taking the reading, but that they weren't able to give me a straight answer to the question until they seemed to realize I was trying to science my way out of a bogus ticket was awfully telling that theirs wasn't one of those. Thankfully the judge was a music major so he understood where I was coming from in court. Still had to pay $350+ in court fees though. (my registration was also expired, that was totally my bad because I thought I took care of it but it ended up totally slipping my mind)

Everybody breaking the law doesn't mean you can break the law too. If everybody is speeding, and they pass a cop, he will pick a car and pull it over. You just got the unlucky draw, or at worst, he didn't like your car.

I wish more cops would focus on drivers doing under the speed limit on highways rather than the drivers going over. Sounds counter-intuitive at first glance, but think of all the people you pass on the road going slower and how many times you probably thought, "I bet that guy is on his phone", and he was. Then all the times you saw someone passing you and they were looking at their phone. I would wager to say people that make people lane change and maneuver are the cause of more accidents than those who speed. I know I have my cruise on 84 on the interstate, but I pass in the left lane and drive in either the middle or right when I'm not overtaking.

it was the end of the month and they needed to fill their quotas so they camped out one section of the road

Then you risk getting pulled over for speeding my dude.

Following the purpose and intent of the law doesn't help against getting fined for going against the letter of the law.

It's hard to follow the law when you're in the far right lane doing 55mph like the sign says and you got some dude riding up on your ass at 75mph. Every time when I have to make a turn.

The purpose and intent is to reduce the number of traffic collisions and the number of injuries and fatalities. Just because everyone else is breaking the law doesn't mean you have an excuse to do so as well. If you get pulled over and they don't, you can't blame them and you can't blame the police officer, because you still broke the law. Forumshark said he's worried that someone would rear-end him for going the speed limit, yet by speeding himself, he perpetuates that threat to other motorists. Sure, sometimes speed limits are arbitrary, but sometimes they keep you from taking that hard right turn at 55mph and rolling 140 meters down a hill where you won't be found for 3 weeks.

do you have a license? it is FAR more unsafe to go against the flow of traffic, and many states you can get pulled over for disrupting the flow of traffic even if you're under the limit

Its illegal to go slow in the left hand lanes where I live, thank god

Speed limits on highways are dumb, and I wish the US would copy Germany with the autobahn. More wrecks happen due to people pulling dumb as shit maneuvers, not paying attention, or going way too slow rather than speed alone. Like by the laws of physics, if everyone is traveling the same speed, everyone will just about have the same exact brake time. Majority of cops I've seen running radar are more happy to sit at speed traps than actually sit in open areas to catch speeders.

Small price to pay to not die. Honestly, when you're doing the 100 kmh limit here on your way out to abbotsford or something, and someone is doing even a hair less than the legally allowable 110 you can do(10% over the posted limit isn't in violation here, except in school zones) they're dangerous. Way more dangerous than speed is. Having to react to someone not doing what the rest of the pack is doing, the oddity who's sticking to exactly 100 kmh is not good. Everything moving along without those oddballs is a safer scenario even at a high speed. Real world practical information has shown that speed limits are not necessarily creating safety.

Regardless if there are quotas or not, if you don't speed or violate the traffic rules then you don't need to worry about a ticket. Or at least do not do it under normal traffic conditions. I was speeding - like you haven't saw many cops on the highway in a week or so. Guess what, the day I was going 75 in a 60 there was a motorcycle cop and he got me. I got a 200 dollar ticket. I ended up taking a driver safety course, got the ticket dropped, paid a smaller fee/fine. I learned from my lesson and I don't really speed all that much. At the same token I've been in cities where the speed limit did not matter, everyone was going 90MPH and to go slower then that would create an accident. Cops never pulled anyone over cause most people went with the flow of traffic. It's one of those things that you have to judge and gauge when it is acceptable to speed. If you know you are flying past people who are going the limit and you are making stupid amount of lane changes to dodge other cars. Clearly you shouldn't be driving as aggressively. Tickets are just a big source of revenue, sadly municipalities often resort to extreme ticketing to generate revenue. I'm glad a judge made a good ruling though to prevent people getting stuck into poverty, it is really an injustice to take away someones DL for a ticket. People need to understand while police write or issue the ticket, it is ultimately up to the courts. If you want you can utilize the process and attempt to fight it, arrange payments, etc. Or you can just straight up pay it if you want. If you want the process or ideals behind tickets to change the laws have to change. Realistically for most people fines are a good way to deter people or punish them for infractions without going to the near extremes. However, just like you should use common sense to know when it is appropriate to speed or break standard traffic rules the courts need to evaluate and use commonsense in regards to someones position so they are not hurt or adversely punished due to the fine. Something else needs to be arranged.

Sometimes doing the speed limit is infeasible. If you're lost then you need to focus on where you are more than how fast you're going. On top of that there's plenty of places in the US where you can turn on to a street and not see a speed limit sign for quite awhile. Or in some areas there is a sign but you can't see it because of flora covering it up.

Are you telling me you go faster when you're lost? That doesn't make sense, people usually go slower instead so as not to miss their exit and to actually have enough time to know where they are going. Don't you have set speed limits when in town/city? Over here it's 50km/h tops, even if there aren't any sign.

Some of our towns and cities are far too big for that to be feasible. As a general rule 25mph in small 2-lane streets and 30-35mph on two lane + turn lane, and usually 35-40 on four-lane streets.