• New EU law could be passed TODAY limiting FREEDOM of SPEECH and banning memes
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/984124/eu-commission-jean-claude-juncker-article-13-antonio-tajini-european-union THE EUROPEAN Union could be about to pass a law which will dramatically curb freedom of speech online by passing a law which could “ban memes”, limit the sharing of news articles, and lead to mass surveillance. Today the European Parliament will be asked to decide if it will overturn a decision made by only 14 MEPs to censor the internet for every EU citizen. Article 13 requires websites to enforce copyright, even on content uploaded by users. Critics say it could mean social media sites and other would have to check every piece of content uploaded. Because it is impossible to do so by humans, it would require automated copyright checking systems, put in place by each company. Automated systems have a high error rate and have been controversial on platforms such as Youtube where it has been implemented. It also means popular memes, remixes and parodies could became a thing of a past since they use copyrighted material. The draft document does have a specific exemption for "non-for-profit online encyclopaedias”, but that has not curbed fears. The founders of the internet and Wikipedia warn the copyright directive will turn the internet into a tool for surveillance and control. Today at noon it is expected each and every MEP will be asked to vote on the proposal. Guess something like Telegram will be the new platform for Memes if this passes
I can respect going against this but this "they're after our memes" shit is really dumb and impossible to take seriously If what people say about it are true, the 'meme' shit like the least bad thing about it
Memes would probably fall under parody which should protect it from copywrite law. That said, how is a piece of software supposed to tell?
Look at how well youtubes content ID works (it's dumb as fuck), and imagine how that would work over the entire internet.
Why does this phrasing sound so silly
Hope this doesn't pass, we are going to be so fucking screwed if it does.
In italy it was defineley noticed, the Italian Wikipedia went dark to protest against this, and Di Maio made it clear that they are going against this (Don't know what Salvini's gonna do, but I guess that can kinda answer for itself). All we can do is to hope (or start to invest in a VPN or something like that).
I hate that it's the memes everyone gives a crap about and not the actual ramifications.
Personally I think it acts as a double edged sword in this case, as in it gets the attention of people on this issue and that memes are... a dumb topic to discuss for something of this scale.
to me, the meme argument exposes how far reaching and heavy handed this law is
I have some words of comfort for y'all. Early last week I called some of the Swedish parliamentarians expressing my concern about Article 11 and 13. One of them, Lars Adaktusson (a name many Swedes here probably will recognise), took some time to actually talk to me about it. He said that the Swedes were near-unanimously against it, and that the same rings true for many other countries' representatives. The vote today will be denied until there are massive revisions to the proposals. He said that many proposals are often first formulated in broad/sweeping terms, and more often than not see many revisions before they are eventually passed. I was also happy to hear that many people have called in regarding these issues, and that our voices are taken into account. So we really are making a difference. That is not to say that the fight isn't over. We should see what happens today and be vigilant of what the next step will be.
Hey, if it works at getting the most people to care.
Every time I see this mentioned, there's always a lot of misinformation going on. The law isn't going to be passed anytime soon, it has at least 4 different layer of votes to go through BEFORE it becomes a law, and it is currently in layer 2. It won't be reaching the last layer up until much later, and this law is very likely to be shot down. I get that "EU banning memes" is funny, but many people don't realize it's a joke and take it way too seriously.
"Shhhhh.....that means we dont get to shit on the EU"
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44712475 EU MEPs rejected it for now, meaning it has to be re-drafted and voted for again in the new form. Not dead, but beaten down for now.
Apparently the law has been sent to review (For now I have only an Italian source, I'll replace it with an english one as soon as possible) http://www.ansa.it/europa/notizie/rubriche/altrenews/2018/07/04/copyright-gruppi-pe-spaccati-domani-conta-allultimo-voto_f1959a6f-3943-42c2-9ba8-340141a53f2e.html
So how many attempts do they have until it's completely binned?
and people thought we would be as dumb as americans and compromise the integrity of internet.
Knowing the system, it's never gonna be completely binned. It's just going to evolve until it becomes acceptable to barely pass.
B-but then what would I have to justify my euroskepticism after the shitshow that was brexit?!
im so jealous you live in a country where your politicians actually give a shit about the people :/
I know that your situation is dire, but it is important to keep an eye out and vote for sane people. We're just lucky to be in a multi-party nation, where there are lower margins to fuck up and get away with some stupid shit. We definitely have our share of national/political embarrassments too though.
This year’s my first year I can vote, just registered like a week ago! You’ll never see my vote go unused. It sucks our country’s party system is so biased against third parties.
Not Americans in general, the three cunt FCC commissioners and the 20 telecom CEOs.
"No, Freedom speech is not under attack, if anything it should be more limited" Said the wrongest person ever. Freedom of expression, and, indeed, memes, is all we have.
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