Trump creates 'Denationalization' task force to deport U.S Citizens
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In June, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services quietly announced a new task force that will investigate “bad” naturalization cases, wherein the agency will hire dozens of lawyers and immigration officers “to find U.S. citizens they say should not have been naturalized, to revoke their citizenship, and then eventually deport them,” according to The Takeaway, from WNYC and Public Radio International.
CNN reports that that the new office in Southern California will review cases and then refer them to the Justice Department, which will then pursue denaturalization proceedings against U.S. citizens accused of fraud. In an interview with the Associated Press, USCIS Director L. Francis Cissna said the number of cases could reach into the thousands—this in a nation of about 325 million. “We finally have a process in place to get to the bottom of all these bad cases and start denaturalizing people who should not have been naturalized in the first place,” Cissna said. “What we’re looking at, when you boil it all down, is potentially a few thousand cases.”
https://www.theroot.com/trump-creates-denaturalization-task-force-to-pursue-d-1827372139
This is incredibly dangerous to our democracy.
Come the fuck ON now
Meanwhile, immigrants and first-gen naturalized immigrants are suddenly being turned away from being allowed into the army due to 'national security risks'.
This is worse than McCarthyism.
I am legit scared for me and my family now.
great.
I cannot begin to emphasize in words how much of a horrifying forward step towards... something darker... this is. You all know what I'm thinking.
So, from what i read, these forces will track down people who used fake identification to gain citizenship, have them de-naturalized and deported because they committed fraud?
correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems like we're just punishing people for breaking the law.
read the article
The reason I didn't post this article is because it exceeds the left-center bias but if anyone wants a left-center source, I found this one:
USCIS is Starting a Denaturalization Task Force | The Takeaway |..
That's the cover story, but if you believe that, I've got a jar of magical urine that cures cancer right here to sell you.
fraud is all scary and all
but when are we gonna go after the people already in our country doing this who have high positions of power?
Wtf
First they came for the immigrants
Then they came for the naturalised citizens
Wtf next
Then they came for those who sympathize or protected the immigrants and naturalised citizens.
so everything has an underlying message?
well shit.
When they easily bribed people stop being voted into office
I transcribed the audio from the URL I linked earlier if you're not in a position to listen to audio at the moment.
HOST: The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services is creating a new task force. Its goal is to examine what they say are bad naturalization cases according to director Francis Cissna. As a result, the agency expects to hire dozens of lawyers and immigration officers in the coming weeks to find U.S. citizens they say should not have been naturalized, revoked their citizenship, and then eventually deport them. Ur Jaddou is with me to explain. She's a former chief counsel for the USCIS and is now the director of the immigrant advocacy group DHS watch. She's also an immigration law professor at Washington College of Law at American University. Thanks for being here Ur.
Ur: Thank you for inviting me.
HOST: So let's start at the beginning. What is denaturalization and how often does it happen?
Ur: So it's a very rare thing that happens. Deaturalization is the process that is used to take away the naturalization that someone obtained after immigrating to the United States, in the cases where perhaps the naturalization was obtained through other identities or through some kind of fraud or misrepresentation.
HOST: And for some of our listeners who may not be aware, can you just explain quickly what being naturalized means?
Ur: Sure. So usually when a person immigrates to the United States comes from another country, they begin a process. Let's just talk about for example a very typical example of a student. Comes here for college, spends several years on a student visa. Let's say they decide they would like to find a job in the United States after they graduate from college. They then go on to a work visa, some of the more famous visas H1 visas for example, and then their employer says "well we really like you we would like to keep you for ever or we'd like you to stay, so we're going to try to get you what is lawful permanent residence" (many people know it as a green card) and that takes a long time to get. Then, the person is a lawful permanent resident and after generally five years, good moral character, and various other requirements a person has to go through, they may apply for naturalization and then become what is a full U.S. citizen just like someone who is born in the United States and they have all the rights to vote and participate fully in our society.
HOST: Now you just described a very involved process. There's been a big focus on what the administration has called criminal aliens and I'm quoting their own language there and so I think most Americans would say well you know if someone has committed a crime or isn't somebody that we want to have in the United States they would sort of maybe understand the involved process that this organization is looking to undertake. My question to you is are these folks, these estimated twenty five hundred people, are these people who are working in the United States, have been here for a couple of decades, have paid Social Security, and now we're looking at their paperwork?
Ur: Yes so this is a problem that goes back. So, every time a person tries to obtain an immigration benefit they have to provide their fingerprints. And this has been something the United States has been doing for many decades. Well, those fingerprints were collected on paper before we had the technology to collect them electronically. And then there came a time where they were collected on paper and then put into an electronic database when electronic databases were created which is in the 90s. And now they're collecting them mostly digitally. So now they're going straight into these databases that are all used to check every time a person tries to obtain a benefit, a person's fingerprints are checked against these databases to connect them to whomever they were through out the process. Well as you can imagine, some people may have came to the U.S. before all of these fingerprints were collected digitally, before all of these fingerprints that were collected on paper or digitized, which is an extreme effort to go back to every file, and input those fingerprints in. And not all of those paper file fingerprint cards from a long time ago were completely added to these electronic databases that are searched.
HOST: So let me just be clear. There are about 2500 folks whose cases are going to be reviewed is that correct?
Ur: That's what I understand.
HOST: OK. And so and though and this is just because of a suspicion of having used incorrect or improper paperwork or what's triggering this this group in particular?
Ur: Well according to the inspector general there was a group of people that at the time that they were naturalized their fingerprint cards that were collected before were not input into the databases that USCIS had searched at that time that they were seeking naturalization.
HOST: Are American citizens who've been naturalized outside of these estimated 2500, should they be concerned? Do they have to worry about potentially having their cases brought up in the future?
Ur: So this is the part that concerns me the most. I worked in the government. Every American should be very concerned that their government should always ensure essentially they should practice principles of good governance. If there is a problem and people are being naturalized when they shouldn't be, well we should identify what that problem is. We should correct it and we should prevent such instances of problems occurring in the future. And that's what the inspector general noted in their 2016 report, that this problem was identified in 2008, 2009 and since then, efforts were being made to fix the problem. And in fact in 2016 when the IG report came out, the DHS spokesperson was saying well we're redoubling our efforts. We're going to do even more to ensure that we correct the problem. And that is the right thing for any good government to do. And my concern is, why the public notice? What is the issue? Why are you publicly doing this now? Based on the track record of this administration that believes in many ways and has used fear to send a message to immigrant populations, it suggests something other than good government. It suggests perhaps they're wanting to use fear again for people who are potentially seeking naturalization or those who have already naturalized that they should be worried that perhaps their naturalization could be reviewed and potentially questioned.
HOST: Ur Jaddou is the director of the immigrant advocacy group DHS watch. Thanks for being with us.
Ur: Thank you.
i've heard that if you say nothing, you get to go in the back of the line
soooo... Nazi parallels??
This sounds like legal hell, the federal courts haven't exactly been cooperative with Trumps antics either.
Still this is scary as hell, my mother was an immigrant from the UK that stayed here illegally untiled she could get her greencard then citizenship. That could be grounds to try and deport her considering how vague the language they're using is here.
Considering this is the same administration that set up a commission for voter fraud that was clearly meant to disenfranchise instead of stop voter fraud, this new fraud fighting task force is highly suspect.
Using resources to attempt deporting already integrated immigrants is absurd, even assuming their process was fradulent.
This puts even more families at risk of being split up and spreads fear among your own citizens. What could possibly be worth that?
Also giving more power to an agency that's actively committing human rights violations puts any presumed good intentions out the window
it's pretty obvious what comes next. Deportations, concentration camps and killings for brown people.
oh wait those are all already things
trump wont rest until hes got his white america
if that's the case then that's yet another national convention being flouted
chips and chips at the wall of democracy, hitler wasn't made in a day, the jews weren't dehumanized in a week, it took years of careful deliberate attacks on their rights to turn them into second class then non citizen people.
trump has the luxury of our even worse immigration system and an empty court to shape
Fully legal immigrants that suddenly going to be made illegal for no actual reason.
As much as I would think its a joke I can see it coming.
I ridiculed people for calling Trump shit like "orange Hitler" early on. I was wrong. Trump and his admin are Nazis.
Trump wants his legacy, and who better to shape it after than one of History Channel’s favorite topics.
"Wir haben das nicht gewußt!" - GOP
Pawn shops?
Let's play "refugee roulette"! Which European wants to pitch me on the best country for me to leave this smoldering, racist, russian-infested dumpster fire that used to be the greatest empire the world had ever known for?
From all I've heard from friends, it seems like no other country is really any better. Though personally, I wouldn't mind leaving just so I wouldn't have to keep hearing about what stupid shit this idiot and his administration have accomplished day after day after day.
Doesn't need to be perfect, just somewhere decent.
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