• World Cup TV kiss sparks social media debate on sexual harassment in China
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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/world-cup-tv-kiss-sparks-social-media-debate-on-sexual-harassment-in-china-report?xtor=CS1-10 Video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VrMmdvAnU
Different story if it was a female reporter getting kissed by a man.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/female-reporter-groped-during-a-live-world-cup-broadcast-we-do-not-deserve-this
I mean if the guy was cool with it what's the issue
It really boils down to that "nice" southpark episode, really. Pretty girls kissing a guy on the cheek without his consent? He's considered lucky. Opposite way around?
It was unsolicited, how are you supposed to know if someones cool with it till you do it? Its a mindset that the guy was probably cool with it that will pressure dudes into being cool with it.
These discussions ultimately end in the conclusion that men and women are not equal, but as valuable as eachother.
lol what do you expect him to do in this situation exactly
Shout "NAP" then blow her head off, obviously.
the dude was nowhere affected or bullied by it. this is absolutely a non-debate. instead of looking at grouping all men's supposed disturbance by a kiss as compared to women how about look at the individual and look how they respond.
What if he was a North Korean reporter and these two girls were the catalyst for WW3 when Kim Jong-Un demanded that Putin apologize and Putin refuses to apologize for Russia
DON'T LOOK AT HOW THEY RESPOND ASK IF IT'S OK INSTEAD.
Shout "THAT'S MY PURSE, I DON'T KNOW YOU" In Korean and then Tae Kwon Do them in the junk, obviously.
I guess, I just feel like again people are ignoring that a woman kissing a man is genuinely not as bad as a man kissing a woman (unsolicited). I get that there's a double standard and that it's not okay to kiss anybody unsolicited, but I think you guys are overreacting a little bit. The guy in the video clearly isn't bothered, I just don't see why this needs to blow up into some huge debate when in reality it should just be a small point of positivity in a world of negativity.
so it would be okay if a woman didn't mind being kissed unsolicited? I feel like people would still get in the huge debate and give her shit for some bullshit reason a la "internalized misoginy"
Get over it lol
I mean, it's still harrassment and they shouldn't do it but in the context of the current world then it's not as bad as when the roles are reversed. It feels wrong to try to make this problem out to be equivalent to sexual harrassment by men against women.
aaah whatever it's the world cup live a little
Legit curious, if you were in the place of the Korean reporter would this bother you? (✔️yes /❌no)
Yes I hate being kissed by girls
Yes, it would bother me. I don't want random strangers kissing me. Maybe I'm weird but in matters of consent it's my damn right to be weird.
i dont want women touching me...
Though I am a straight dude I still don't want strangers of any sort touching me Frankly, I'm paranoid as shit and assume it's to distract me from how I'm being pickpocketed
If it's some leering gross weirdo looking for an excuse to make physical contact, sure it would bother me. If it's just a playful peck on the cheek? Categorically no. We have to stop dealing in absolutes. Whether something is sexual harrassment depends on the intent and context.
Honestly, if the woman in question is attractive then no. Granted if I didn't find her attractive or if I was in a serious relationship then I would feel completely opposite.
For me it really doesn't matter, I would be uncomfortable. I would be over it the next day or whatever but I can't think of a situation when I would want a random stranger, regardless of attractiveness, to run up and kiss me.
If a drop dead beautiful woman kisses me without consent I will call the police. It's sexual assault regardless of their looks. What is this, that episode of South Park?
Yeah, I guess? I feel like you have to gauge the situation. I think a man kissing a woman is almost always going to be creepy and scary, but women kissing a male news reporter.. idk I know it's the "wrong" opinion but I don't want to live in a world where spontaneity and fun are completely extinguished for fear of being accused of something. The guy wasn't in any danger, he had two nice women kiss him during the World Cup, he's smiling and happy about it, in my view it's just a nice wholesome event. I don't want life to be completely sterilized by fear of politics. If he didn't like it he could shove them off and indicate it wasn't okay and that could be the end of it. Roll the dice a little ffs, if the worst case scenario is a news caster gets kissed on the cheek by a woman and says "stop" I'm really not that bothered by it.
so you are biased. while you are likely right, you do have bias
I guess it depends on what you mean by biased. If you mean I see the situation differently depending on the gender, then yeah that's fair enough, I do. But I think it's a reasonable bias too. It's like whether I think it's okay for a 200lb man to hit a 100lb woman vs. the opposite. Obviously neither is "okay" but one is worse than the other.
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