Mitch McConnell was chased out of an restaurant by protesters. - Polidicks

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/08/politics/mitch-mcconnell-louisville-protest/index.html Including one protester calling him a turtle head. Glad to see people are making sure this administration constantly faces backlash for their shitty practices.

wouldn't be surprised if this dipshit did this on purpose. Along with the fiasco Sarah sanders pulled a few weeks back.

Good, the entire trump administration should know that they are not welcome.

I'd expect nothing less for the party that constantly taunts the marginalized for their want for safe spaces. Can't wait for Dems to call for civility as if the GOP deserves any modicum of respect

If you want change verbally harassing someone after their meal sure as hell isn't going to do anything. "we know where you live" Sorry but this crap makes you no better than the corrupt politicians in office.

"Both sides are as bad as each other" You are wrong

Polarization in general sure is an issue but what would you suggest as a protest instead? Also, compare elected officials in general. Can you find even close to the same number as insane democrats as Republicans?

We tried to be civil. It didn't work. You can't have a debate with someone who denies simple facts.

You heard it, people. This is just as bad as supporting a fascist wannabe dictator and taking away people's healthcare! God, I love comparisons that make sense!

Oh, shove it where the sun don't shine with your "both sides" crap, that stopped being valid months ago.

harassing fascist monsters in resteraunts makes you no better than the fascist monster thats stripping away our rights and locking people in cages for no reason you should all be enlightened centrists like me and let them run rampant and never face consequences so you can always have the moral high ground

As validating as this feels, this is almost certainly a bad thing. Protests are successful when you bring attention to something or when the people you're protesting make you into a victim. It garners sympathy for your cause. This protesting is making victims out of the people they're protesting. Regardless of whether they deserve it, this is only going to have a net negative effect. As we fight the rise fascism, our inability to stay calm and rational and control our anger is going to make us fail. We need to be careful, collected, and calculating, or we're going to end up doing a bunch of stuff like this which only hurts our cause. We need centralized movements with strong leaders, not out of control decentralized masses where the loudest, most angry and most violent get to speak for all of us.

You're talking about people who are frequently lamenting how they've lost friends for supporting Trump. They'll always, always, ALWAYS find a way to paint themselves as the victim in anything, it doesn't matter.

What would be worse than being inable to stay calm and rational is not being able to break out of apathy enough to care to do anything. Whatever else you might say, these people are not being apathetic - and apathy is the true anathema to fighting fascism.

It does matter. We're talking about the difference between being able to paint themselves as the victims, and the difference between being able to convince people that they are victims. We're only giving people like him more fuel. It doesn't matter if he already has fuel, giving him more isn't a good thing.

"Both sides" in regards to the general population not current elected officials. God you guys are so tightly strung it amazes me.

You're giving them no more fuel than they're whole-cloth inventing themselves. They didn't care about the truth to begin with, the vast majority of them, and so it doesn't really matter what you do because so long as you're against their narrative you will 'suddenly be wrong'.

Fascists thrive on portraying themselves as the victim. Giving them the ability to do that more is only rallying their base more and turning more sympathetic people over to their side. There are ways to fight back without allowing them to do that.

You can't give them the ability to do that more. They give themselves an infinite amount of ability to do that. When everything is a crime wherein they're a victim, it's not possible to 'make them more a victim'.

There's a difference between fuel that can be invented that will rally people that are already on their side, and fuel that is accurate and will convince people who are merely sympathetic, and wouldn't be convinced with lies. If you have a Trump sympathetic family member and they bring this up, what are you going to say? You can't say it didn't happen because it did. Propaganda based in truth will always be more powerful.

If you truly believe that the alternative, in this case, verbally harassing and threatening the man, as just as it may be in your head, will honestly make a difference than I pity you and anyone who thinks this is a valid tactic to get what you want. It makes you look bad and makes things worse.

This is an attitude whose only purpose is to absolve our side of all responsibility to be careful and make sure we're doing the right thing, and your logic is entirely wrong. They can't always make victimization out of nothing and certain things will INEVITABLY make a more powerful case for them than others. Think about something like this compared to if they tried to victimize themselves for having a peaceful protest conducted against them. Which one will give them a better case?

That difference is already moot on those who would be persuaded by them anyway. I do have Trump sympathetic family members. Here's a quick rundown on what they'd say. (1) He deserves what he's got. He's not representing the Republic, or his people, and so his People are calling him out for it. "His private life should have nothing to do with his public life. Those people don't have any jobs, are feckless cowards, and what do they know about running the country? Nothing! If you left it up to them, they'd open the borders up and let the aliens flood the nation." (2) They have a right to free speech, this is them exercising it. "That's not free speech! Their rights end where his begins. He didn't ask their opinion, so they don't deserve to be able to spread it and ruin not just his dining experience but everyone else's. Those people are selfish assholes who have no sense of decorum."

I don't really have any sympathy because on top of everything else, Mitch McConnell hasn't had a town hall meeting in a year. https://youtu.be/ywYTJG3Z_kk

So are you seeing yet how this makes it so much harder on you to defend these protesters than if they were being resistant, but civil, in their protesting? Can you really not see how yelling at him and throwing personal insults makes our side look so much worse? Your attitude of "You either support them or you don't, nothing will ever change anyone's opinion" is completely defeatist and only serves to resolve our side of any responsibility.

Chasing him out and making him feel unwelcome is good. Physically threatening him is not,

It was already impossible so, no, it doesn't make it any harder.

This is just transparently delusional.

I agree. Which is why it's mainly a waste of time to debate with those who continue to enthusiastically support Trump and feel that the only failings he has are the weights we've tied him down with; those weights being labeled the rule of law, due process, the Constitution, the Political Parties, the Media...

Good. Fuck that turtle headed worm. He's scum.