Ontarios new government kills EV rebates to lower gas prices - Polidicks

On July 3, 2018, Ontario cancelled the cap and trade program as part of its commitment to bring gas prices down by 10 cents a litre and help reduce costs for Ontario families and businesses by $1.9 billion dollars per year. Given the Electric and Hydrogen Vehicle Incentive Program and the Electric Vehicle Charging Incentive Programs are funded through cap-and-trade proceeds, these programs are cancelled. http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-vehicle-incentive-program.shtml

wow, talk about burning the candle from both ends huh

Gotta keep suckin on that big, oil teet until it completely dries out, I guess

TBH I'm feeling at some point stuff like this should start being punishable with jailtime...

this is why carbon taxes sadly are not an answer because it just takes a conservative government to undo them, we need something more concrete

Well I wasn't likely to buy an EV because of the infrastructure problems associated with getting a condo/apartment to put in a charging station, but now I'm also not getting an EV for my next car because the Bolt is not a $40,000 car. Frankly I do wonder if car companies have been partially inflating the price of EVs due to these subsidies. Now, while I personally liked the subsidies and their assistance in getting people to adopt PHEVs and EVs, I can understand the people who say that we shouldn't be subsidizing these car companies, and that the market should be more fairly representative of the real price of an EV and companies should be innovating further to bring prices down, rather than relying on government subsidies to inflate the market.

if you want an economic vehicle, the ford hybrid f150 will not be the answer, and if you're complaining about a 40,000$ electric car then the f150 will be miles above your budget

Different needs and different wants. I just bought a 2017 Focus, so my next car won't be for a few years. The issue isn't so much that the Bolt is $40,000, it's that I don't think it's worth $40,000. It's a $30,000 car at most. If an F-150 Hybrid costs $70,000, then if I decide I want to buy a hybrid for my next car I'd be debating if it's worth $70,000, or if I should just get a hybrid SUV for $30,000. It won't so much be whether I can afford the $70,000, though that certainly will be part of it, even if I could afford a $100,000 car, I'm not going to buy a $70,000 car if I only personally value it at $50,000. That's the kind of feeling I was trying to convey with the Bolt. It's not that it's too expensive (though it was), it's that I don't think it's worth what they're charging for it.

there's a 30,000$ bolt sitting down the road from me with 10 miles on the odometer. it isn't exactly a premium looking car but its going to be avalible

This is a thread about Canada, specifically Ontario. From Chevrolet.ca, the Bolt's MSRP is $44,000 starting, taxes not included. Cars cost more up here, except seemingly some Fords.

The same could be said for any legislation. "Oh, why bother funding healthcare when the next government could just undo it?" What exactly would be a more concrete way of dealing with it if we can't legislate around it? No doubt manufactures will slightly inflate profit margins. 44,000 CAD is pretty close to 30,000 USD though in a straight swap.

offhand a treaty ratified by the senate, something congress can't unilaterally undo