Textbook greenwashing, I see.
Is there a particular reason those lids absolutely need to be plastic anyway?
It's pretty much a staple at this point that any cold or frozen drink should be in a completely see-through container. Probably because it looks nice? I don't know
If anything they should carry both paper and plastic and give plastic for the people who really want it.
Well one benefit of no straws is that wild animals don't choke to death on them, even if it does use more plastic
This person's method is pretty suspect.
(I got these results by measuring Starbucks' plastic straws and lids on two seperate scales, both of which gave me the same results.)
Wouldn't be surprised if this is a huge error
I don't know about starbucks because we don't have that anywhere close to where I live thank god but pretty much every McDonalds, Burger King and coffee shop carries paper cups in sweden, honestly would have a hard time finding a completely plastic beverage container at any restaurant here.
Only drink I ever get at Mcdonalds Denmark is their milkshakes and coffee, can confirm both come in paper cups
Would volume be a good test or can you have a kind of plastic with a higher volume that actually uses less plastic overall?
For as much money as they ask for for their products, I would expect high-grade glass cups and mugs for every beverage they serve.
Starbucks isn't actually that expensive. A tall (12oz) coffee is $1.89
I mean I can get 20 oz. for $1.55 at the chain convenience store that's around here and I like it better.
Idk for a vanilla bean frap, 2 egg muffins, and whatever coffee my wife ordered it was $18. We seriously eat out at Bob Evans for like $12-15 for a full meal.
Yeah, but $1.89 isn't super expensive for a small coffee. Plus I quite like Starbucks, their stores, their coffee, and occasionally I like to get a frappuccino which I can only get at Starbucks. Additionally, if you're an absolute fucking caffeine addict like me, then Starbucks gives you more caffeine per dollar.
A 16oz Coffee from McDonalds is 145mg of Caffeine: Caffeine in McDonalds Coffee
a 16oz Coffee from Starbucks is 330mg of Caffeine: Caffeine in Starbucks Grande Coffee, more than twice the caffeine.
Green movements are often guilty of doing things that aren't actually "green" at all out of PR reasons or just a poor understanding of supply chain.
Well a vanilla bean frap can be between 3 and 5 dollars: Starbucks Prices
I can't find an egg muffin exactly, but according to this they're about 3 to 5 dollars for any one of the breakfast items: Starbucks Prices
and if you mean straight coffee (like black coffee maybe with cream or sugar) it's from $1.89 to $2.45, which is more than most places but not breaking the bank on Civet poop coffee.
I think the error here was getting the food at starbucks: it's not very good, it's overpriced, and it's not fresh (heated up in a turbochef).
But frappuccinos aren't exactly good products to compare prices on because not many other places offer similar products; McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts both offer similar beverages but not the same ones (for example, I don't think you can get a Java Chip Frappuccino anywhere other than Starbucks). I think the best way to compare prices is to look at the offerings that others compete with them for (Coffee and Espresso beverages) which are, yes, more expensive (but in my opinion still not really expensive).
So then you have to ask "Why is it more expensive? How does Starbucks differentiate itself from its competitors?"
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Well first of all, Starbucks offers free refills on Coffee purchased in store for customers who sit around on their laptops, so if you drink more than 1 cup of coffee you're already paying less than basically anywhere else.
Secondly, as pointed out above, Starbucks Pike Place and Blonde Roast have higher caffeine concentrations than competing brands.
Third, many people prefer the atmosphere and free wifi of a starbucks to that of McDonalds or a convenience store: starbucks often has dark, rustic design interiors and comfortable chairs, and offer a compilation album of jazz or RnB selections which they play in the store.
Finally, Starbucks tries to treat its employees ethically by providing benefits that similar fast food restaurants don't, such as paying for the cost of college to a partnered university, and, as they recently announced, covering medical care for transgender employees. Many customers like going to businesses which they consider to be ethical employers.
The atmosphere is 50% of why I don't buy anything at Starbuck, and while it's great that they don't treat their employees like absolute garbage, I don't have the disposable income necessary to shop with my heart. I can barely make ends meet as it is. If I can get 40% more product for 40% less cost I'm not going to think twice about it.
Frankly the issue isn't the amount of plastic we use, rather how its disposed of. Plastic waste can be dealt with pretty effectively by just burying it in a landfill, so wildlife can't dig and consume it. However, plastic still gets thrown into the oceans around the world, and the problem is smaller pieces like straws (and now banned microbeads) are more invasive.
yes hi everyone the reason they're moving away from plastic straws to the sip lids is that recycling plants aren't designed to recycle straws (they're too small and light so they fall through the conveyor belts). the new sip lids are fully recyclable, so while it uses roughly the same amount of plastic, it ends up being recyclable so overall a net gain
Nah this is a really popular chain that sells enough coffee that you regularly see them swapping out the things the dispenser things.
I work at a cafe in a Seattle hotel that serves Starbucks and we just use biodegradable straws.
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