Good, there's lots of great trans actors out there that would fit much better
Oh there was backlash alright.
Also I dont know any FTM trans actors of high enough (or any) caliber for this project.
There was some backlash, not a lot, though.
This certainly was NOT Johansson's decision, just a few days ago she was being very condescending towards the criticism.
You say this like the people complaining aren't idiots.
I'm not sure how to feel about this, but I'm gonna be totally honest: at first glance, the picture in the OP made me think it was Cumberbatch.
If by "High Calibre" you mean famous, then yes you're right. If you mean skilled then probably not
eh...
I mean i get the shit where its like if you're adapting a story with a character of a specific ethnicity, you should have an actor/actress that has the same ethnicity.
But i imagine the amount of trans-men/trans-women actors that are in hollywood is extremely low. Even more so for well known actors. Hence why non-transgender actors are being used. So i dont think it was really out of malice and more of a situational thing. Also actors/actress who are straight/gay/bi have been playing characters that are either straight/gay/bi. So tbqh this is more of idiots complaining cause they're being idiots.
On one hand, I get where people complaining are coming from, kinda. On the other... you know. Acting. That's the whole point.
I think you're missing the point. If the movie is about a female-to-male transperson transitioning then they need someone who can actually fit the role.
There's a reason though that they don't have the same 5 actors in every movie
If Scarlett Johansson could still act then sure but she hasn't been known for trying very hard ever since she got into the MCU.
Why can't she fit the role? You need someone who can start out looking like a woman and then show the transition to becoming a man. You can't really do that with someone who has already transitioned.
Never mind the fact that transgendered people are a tiny minority as it is, and the number of those who're actors an even smaller fraction of that small fraction. The people complaining about this are being absurd, it's just people whining for the sake of whining.
Except they don't. The real-life person she was cast to play as looked like this.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/06/05/4DF6F25A00000578-5924185-image-m-34_1530852789983.jpg
If they were Dead set on casting a cis actor it should have been a cis man. Casting Scarlett to play Dante is like casting Danny Devito to play Black Widow.
You also need someone who looks ANYTHING like the character
Then complain about the fact that she doesn't look like him, or at least doesn't look like she could transition into him, rather than trying to make it out as though this is hollywood trying to screw over the trans community.
I mean with the kind of prosthetic and cgi they use today they probably COULD make her look like that in the end. I just don't see this as the issue people made it out to be.
Scarlett would be a poor choice for this reason (if not for the fact that she isn't trans). Conchata Ferrell or Paul Sorvino, for example would be more fitting (in terms of looking the part).
because there are, believe it or not, working trans actors that would love an opportunity to represent themselves in a movie
But what makes you think any of them look like he does? Also due to the nature of FTM transitions they tend to get bigger due to the testosterone, so it'd be hard to make up them as a woman for the first part. It's a lot easier to make a smaller person look bigger than make a big person look smaller.
This whole "controversy" is a nonissue.
But why cast her when there ARE better fits for the character out there. I think Hollywood should be doing more to represent the lgbt community, at least until there is a more realistic spread of representation of roles
Probably not, the number of trans actors is absolutely tiny. You're talking about a tiny minority of a tiny minority.
the number of famous ones you mean, trans people aren't any less willing to be actors
Think of what percentage of people become actors out of the general population, and then apply that percentage to a minority that make up around 0.5% of the population and you have you answer.
and then think of how few roles actually represent trans people. Come on, they could get a trans actor
No they probably just didn't find a trans actor who could play both pre and post transition. Like I'm sorry but that most likely is the case. It's a lot easier to just take an existing female actor and do a prosthetic transition than it is to hunt for that one trans person out there who could fulfil the role.
you could not make a worst casting than this. Not that scarlet isn't amazing but this is a pic based on a real person that looks exactly nothing like her in every way possible
Starting out looking like a woman doesn't necessarily entail looking very feminine like Johansson does. But that's still missing the point. This is the post you were replying to:
Which doesn't even contradict the point you seem to be trying to make. I don't even disagree with you that it would likely be more difficult to do with someone who has already transitioned actually. You just seem to be barking up the wrong tree here.
I can see how maybe having transitioned could improve your portrayal of a character, but to be honest, having experienced something doesn’t make you a good actor in itself - it’s empty words, but they should obviously get the best they can, trans or not.
With that said, that’s of course a utopia - Johansson isn’t getting roles because she’s a great actress, after all, and there’s a reason every other movie is filmed with the same guy actor. Getting outraged that a particular role isn’t filled by a specific (type of) actor is kinda silly, because most of the time roles just go to the same few people. A disappointed sigh might be in order, though.
If people were complaining about scarlette not looking like him then I'd be fine with the complaints, I'm not really directing it to your comment in particular but more the fact that people are trying to imply this was hollywood snubbing the trans community rather than it just being a case of bad casting. Either that or they had something else planned, plenty of movies about famous people use actors who looked nothing like the original person, it's just how hollywood works usually because finding an actor who looks like that person is difficult.
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