Conservatives moving to impeach Rosenstein as early as Monday - Polidicks

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/13/house-republicans-rod-rosenstein-impeachment-719816 https://i1.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/leftcenter03.png?ssl=1 House conservatives are preparing a new push to oust Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, according to three conservative Capitol Hill sources — putting the finishing touches on an impeachment filing even as Rosenstein announced the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers for interfering in the 2016 election. House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, in fact, had the impeachment document on the floor of the House at the very moment that Rosenstein spoke to reporters and TV cameras Friday. https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response-events/search/

Signed up for my local rally when it was first announced. Hoping the GOP doesn't pull this shit off.

Even if the freedom caucus nuts get a simple majority to impeach there is no way Dem senators would provide majority needed to remove him from office. He also is a Trump appointee

So what's this? A coup in the making? The fact they're choosing to move on this now means Mueller must be very close.

The coup has already happened and has been active for many months now with the Congress actively refusing to impeach the President for abandoning his oath of office - thereby abandoning their own oaths. What we're looking at is the redline, the breaking point where their inaction is no longer defensible in any regards.

I've only ever been in favour of vigilante justice in cases where individuals are above the law. Let us hope we do not reach the point where it becomes acceptable to call for the forcible removal of the current regime.

not really, most of the gun owners are on the Red Team(tm) and the left isn't half as enthusiastic as the right about the idea of yelling CIVIL WAR NOW and opening fire on federal agents

congress is taking a stab at their own bloody saturday

Kinda surreal seeing literal treason like this in the US of all places.

for what reason? i mean, i know it's because rosenstein is principled, cares about the rule of law, and won't move to end the mueller investigation. but what's the pretend reason?

He's biased, corrupt, and isn't controlling Mueller.

"actively refusing" is an annoying and overused phrase. Until convinced otherwise, I consider republicans to be merely passively refusing to impeach. On a more serious note, this reddit post says some important things about peaceful protests. TL;DR: effective peaceful protests are designed to fight the thing they're protesting in a practical way. If your protest plan is "make noise and people will listen" then you're just wasting energy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Donald_Trump

Rosenstein addressed this earlier on in his press statement for the indictments. Worth a watch - he basically commented that law enforcement was following the procedures long put in place to uphold the rule of law and are apolitical and respond only to the evidence, at the appropriate time. He deliberately swerved questions afterwards about other portions of the investigation or the relationship of the indictment to said other portions. He is a statesman and - as I'm pretty sure he is making sure - absolutely squeaky clean every time he speaks. If he is still impeached by a majority it means that your democracy has frankly strayed too far from the path of truth, facts and procedures to return without being forced back - and I wouldn't put any faith in 2018 or 2020 election results if the rule of law is not upheld here and the 2016 hacking made an example of. It would give GRU - who have already demonstrated total capability to change an election result in the US - a blank check to choose their next action.

That's like saying you're just passively being dumb.

Today's set of indictments is clearly setting up the argument that Trump knew about Russian efforts to influence the election in his favor - in all likelihood, supported/encouraged them through his intermediaries - AND knowingly misled the public after the fact (and continues to do so) which in itself constitutes a crime.

Well im ready to protest if this comes to pass.

Today's indictments establish that Republican congressional candidates were receiving stolen documents from Russian intelligence. The effort to destroy this investigation isn't purely to protect their political agenda: GOP membership is criminally liable. This is obstruction of justice.

Is there any legal basis, though, for the act of bringing impeachment articles against a person being an act of obstruction? I would assume they'd need to prove motive which would be impossible as any evidence would be stolen, and therefore inadmissible. Further I assume that if a Congressman obstructs justice he can only be held to account by his party leadership or voters.

Donald Trump is a traitor to the United States of America. Any and all efforts to prolong his illegitimate administration is aiding and abetting treason.

lol too late for that

Reminds me of that joke about him and Area 51. Now that he's pretending to be president we know for absolutely certain that there are no aliens out there because if there were he not only would have blurted it out multiple times, but managed to get them angry at us too.

lol they are panicking so hard.

What? He's not pretending to be president, he is the president.

Well that's not suspicious timing or anything I'm sure that, after months of dragging their feet about it, this has nothing at all to do with the list of Russian indictments released today. I'm sure there's no connection. This is definitely not suspicious

feel like this is more for deflection/distraction than anything else even if it gets through the House, there's no way they're getting a super majority in the Senate probably just trying to do a whole circus thing to discredit the investigation, as usual

That doesn't mean he's acting like it though.

A moot argument because impeachment is not in any sense legal. It is entirely political. Much as a DA could indict a ham sandwich, a Congress can impeach for any cause that the majority of Congress agrees with. The only true limitation on this power is that the SCOTUS could rule the impeachment invalid if it is obviously not interpretable as a 'high crime or misdemeanor of office' - and obviously it would impact the opinions of those who elected them. Therefore, since it is not a true 'legal action' it does not impact any ongoing investigations or charges.

That article seems to indicate that Democrats also shot [Articles of Impeachment] down, with only 1/3 of Democrats voting impeach. Most Democrats are likely waiting for 'the big one' before they vote yes, something they feel even Republicans would be forced to vote for.

They're more or less irrelevant at this time however. Even if all the Democrats were for it, the Articles would still fail if the Republicans were against it.