Why's he just getting charged with 'causing death due to negligence'? To me it feels more like manslaughter, at the very least
"death by negligence" is basically man slaughter. Man slaughter in the US is mostly defined by a death that was easily preventable by another individual who failed to prevent said death.
'Death by negligence' seems really fucking weird when he actually pushed her to her death.
I almost thought this was in America
It's illegal for a hospital in the US to deny a person emergency care.
Hospitals, private or public, should admit anyone who needs urgent care and worry about the cost later. In some cases, private hospitals should waive the fee just for the basic humanity of saving a human life
good luck with seeing that shit happen in most private hospitals anywhere around the world. In truth, you really can't deny emergency treatment to people unless you're jonesing to get into trouble as far as I know, but in practice most times nobody bothers to follow up on this shit because it happens so often.
Wasn't there a poster here whose sister died because a government hospital refused to treat her?
You can tell the difference in that, while private hospitals in India leave people to die at the doorstep, the United States leave them to die afterwards through crippling debt.
iirc it was a military hospital with just shitty doctors who couldn't tell/refused to believe how serious it was
running joke in the military is "feeling sore? take 2 ibuprofen and change your socks. broken arm? 2 ibuprofen, change socks. shot in the face? ibuprofen/socks" because military docs are usually the WORST at their jobs
There isn't a hosptial anywhere in the US you can go into needing lifesaving or similar care/treatment that will turn you away unless someone somewhere is desperately looking to lose every cert and license they have and give your family a massive lawsuit, even if you need to be sent to a stroke center or somewhere with a cath lab or similar specialist facility that that hosptial doesn't have, they're going to at least keep you as stable as the facility allows with a doctor usually watching over you for either.
There are an absolute ton of problems with the Health Care system here, but something like in this story doesn't happen here unless someone is massively and criminally fucking up their job as far as I've been trained and told.
The Hippocratic Oath taken by US nurses and doctors makes it illegal to turn away treatment for a patient. Literally anyone can walk into the ER at any facility and be billed for healthcare, it's just going to cost them a fortune. An ER visit costs me $100 with my insurance; I can't imagine how much it would be without it.
The Hippocratic Oath isn't anything legally binding, and there are a bunch of different versions of it. It's tradition thing, as far as I'm aware.
COBRA is mainly an insurance thing, but I think that's also where the hosptial needing to provide certain levels of care comes from?
I dunno exactly, I'm not a healthcare lawyer or a doctor. I just mostly wrap booboos and hang out with drunk hobos in the back of an ambulance.
You're right, not sure why I thought it was legally binding. After looking it up, they can't refuse anyone based on sex, religion, race, etc. But other than that doctors CAN turn down patients if they don't believe they can pay... I've just never seen it happen before. I remember on one occasion going to the doctor and having my debit card bounce due to an anti-fraud measure, and they still treated me and sent me the bill. I don't think anyone could get turned away at an ER, just like how if you're injured in public an ambulance is going to show up to help you if someone calls the police, even though they have no idea what your financial situation is. Doctors/hospitals are probably too scared to be discriminatory or something.
Nay, that was just because he was an incompetent twat
They can't turn away patients who need lifesaving of emergency care or similar either:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act
This also covers what I mentioned earlier about PTs who need specialist facilities, actually. And it covers pretty much all hospitals. I've never heard of a hosptial refusing gov't money, anyways.
Ah, good. Instead of dying on the spot you get condemned to a miserable life of debt. 👌
Give the man murder, and the receptionist of the private hospital, manslaughter
That's a really common misconception. I'm not going to sit here and say the system is perfect, it's very far from it. But debt collection agencies will literally bend over backward for you. It's going to fuck your credit, but it's easy enough to squeeze out of after a couple of years of negotiating. It's not like they're going to take every last penny from you, despite what people may think. I wormed my way out of 15k of medical debt, whittled it down to 3k and paid in full. That was 5 years ago and I've managed to restore my credit since then - it's not a fun journey, but it's not the end of the world.
That's still unacceptable.
I completely agree, it's fucked that we have to cheat our way out of unfair debt. But I'd never cough up 6 figures over the course of 30+ years to a debt collection agency, there's no way in hell.
Most hospitals have money set aside for underinsured and those who simply can't afford a quarter million in medical bills. If you tell them you cant afford to pay and can prove it, theyll waive some or all of the bills.
My brother got into an ATV accident about 10 years ago and took a $35,000 helicopter ride, then another $10,000 in treatment. He told the hospital he couldn't pay and proved it so they waived his bills for pretty much everything except a few hundred dollars worth of asprin.
Obviously this isn't acceptable at all but there are things in place to help people that arent often utilized.
This is the future of America if the conservatives get their way.
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