• World's oldest bread discovered in Jordan, predating agriculture by millennia
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https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44846874 The bake would have looked like a flatbread and tasted a bit like today's multi-grain bread, they say. Until now, the oldest evidence of bread came from Turkey 9,000 years ago. This happened before the advent of farming, when people started growing cereal crops and keeping animals.
Just pick around the mold it's still good
Aged to perfection
I mean, how did they think people ate cereals? Ancient civilizations must have thought they were useful enough to try and farm them in the first place and chewing raw grains forever doesn't sound appealing enough a reason to give up a hunter gatherer lifestyle.
Take a bite
While it doesn't sound appealing, there was little evidence that they did anything but that. This is more proof that bread-making probably help kick off agriculture where as before it was an educated guess.
Thing is with cereals before the implementation of agriculture, regardless of the region OR time is the crops are much, much smaller and low yielding than our regular crops, even thousands of years ago. Wheat was a tiny little plant that had little to no use at all when gathered as and where they found it. What we are seeing here is people simply incorporating edible plants together to make a sustaining meal, grinding up the dry bits and adding water to make a ball or brick is only normal and expected. Hell, before bread they were literally eating all of this stuff as a porridge, and while we can enjoy a good porridge now, it's probably not all that tasty when you are dumping flour into it.
You mean someone who's forgotten more about blunt force than anyone now ever will know ever was adept at make edible stuff chewable/potable?
Send it to that guy that eats super old military rations
steve1989mreinfo would be absolutely delighted to take 7 huge bites out of this, while commenting on how it tastes like old library books and moth balls - a taste of which he thoroughly enjoys
New Steve1989 video when.
Nice.
Guess the paleo diet is bullshit then
It's always been based on bullshit, this extends it considerably
Or he'd start vomiting and put it down, swearing to never touch it again. 'Oh man I better have one more bite just to make sure' Absolute madlad that guy
It doesn't have mold thousands of years old
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Let's get that out onto a tray.
Nice
No hiss.
Just pop it in the toaster for a minute or two it will fluff right up.
Huh. So its basically taking wild grass and wild tubers, and making bread. If anyone wishes to try this: You could probably subsitute the native water plants in the Middle East for cattails[wild corndog]. Hell, you could probably make the entire bread with cattail. Use the pollen as flour, and use the tubers for making most of the binding paste.
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Probably could make bread out of a lot of plants with that recipe, but the real question will be whether it tastes like shit or not
Like, i hope im not the first one to realise this but bread or some form of prepared grains should predate agriculture wouldn’t it? People would have had to eat grains before they decided it was good to plant grains to get more, would it not?
Logically you are correct, but there just was little evidence to proof so until this discovery.
That's kinda the problem with archaeology and history in general. It's a strange science, if it can be called that, it's almost entirely speculative even when presented with evidence and all historians can do is paint a very rough picture based on very limited evidence. Nobody knows what is buried just 5 feet deeper than a previous find. We are constantly expanding our understanding of Human civilization and the issue is when more evidence pops up, such as Göbeklitepe in Turkey and other ancient sites, it forces the previous narrative to be rewritten and re understood, however historians typically claim such finds to be marvelous exceptions to their narrative. I could go on for days, and while the author in my background < can certainly be a bit of a quack when it comes to certain subjects, he's done an excellent job of painting a different picture using already established evidence and bringing the hard work of others to the scene. I could talk for days about this shit.
He'd just probably say sorry guys this is too old I won't eat that and then eat that
>Could talk for days *Looks around* Who's stopping you?
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